Bring back the night

York Press: Bring back the night Bring back the night

THE decision by Transdev to withdraw the late-evening Coastliner bus services has deprived many in the Stockton-on-the-Forest area of their ability to enjoy a decent social life or to retain their jobs in the city without incurring crippling travel costs.

The company’s rationale is that the low number of users of the services does not allow them to cover the costs, although their passenger figures are disputed by many regular users.

Furthermore, due to the Coastliner service having served the village, there is no First Bus service to the area, unlike all other suburban villages.

Strensall and Stockton Liberal Democrats have launched a petition to restore these services and intend to present this to Transdev and City of York Council. Many have already signed it, but anyone who wishes to add their support can do so by visiting yorklibdems.org.uk/buspetition

It is crucial that a suitable late bus service to Stockton is reinstated as soon as possible. After all, PSV stands for public service vehicle and not profit-seeking vehicle.

Tony Fisher, West End, Strensall.

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12:38pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Stevie D says...

Furthermore, due to the Coastliner service having served the village, there is no First Bus service to the area, unlike all other suburban villages.

You're exactly right, except ... oops ... let's look at villages of a similar size to Stockton-on-the-Fore
st:
Naburn - buses by Arriva and Utopia, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm (later on Saturday only)
Rufforth - buses by Connexions and Eddie Brown, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.35pm
Skelton - buses by Reliance and Stephensons, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm
Elvington - buses by Transdev and East Yorkshire, not First. Last bus leaves York at 5.50pm
Wheldrake - buses by Transdev, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.25pm (later on Friday and Saturday only)

Sure, SOTF doesn't have the same level of service as places like Haxby and Poppleton and Bishopthorpe, but it's only a fraction of the size, so that's exactly what you would expect.

Having a last bus back at 9.20pm puts SOTF in a much better position than most comparable villages around the edge of York – can you justify why SOTF should get a better evening service when all the others get nothing, or are you going to campaign for fairness across the whole city?
[quote]Furthermore, due to the Coastliner service having served the village, there is no First Bus service to the area, unlike all other suburban villages.[/quote] You're exactly right, except ... oops ... let's look at villages of a similar size to Stockton-on-the-Fore st: [bold]Naburn[/bold] - buses by Arriva and Utopia, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm (later on Saturday only) [bold]Rufforth[/bold] - buses by Connexions and Eddie Brown, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.35pm [bold]Skelton[/bold] - buses by Reliance and Stephensons, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm [bold]Elvington[/bold] - buses by Transdev and East Yorkshire, not First. Last bus leaves York at 5.50pm [bold]Wheldrake[/bold] - buses by Transdev, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.25pm (later on Friday and Saturday only) Sure, SOTF doesn't have the same level of service as places like Haxby and Poppleton and Bishopthorpe, but it's only a fraction of the size, so that's exactly what you would expect. Having a last bus back at 9.20pm puts SOTF in a much better position than most comparable villages around the edge of York – can you justify why SOTF should get a better evening service when all the others get nothing, or are you going to campaign for fairness across the whole city? Stevie D
  • Score: 5

2:57pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Zetkin says...

"After all, PSV stands for public service vehicle and not profit-seeking vehicle."

Indeed it does, so you'll be calling on your LibDem MPs to stop supporting the Tory cuts to all our other public services?

No?
"After all, PSV stands for public service vehicle and not profit-seeking vehicle." Indeed it does, so you'll be calling on your LibDem MPs to stop supporting the Tory cuts to all our other public services? No? Zetkin
  • Score: 31

1:02am Sat 18 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Stevie D wrote:
Furthermore, due to the Coastliner service having served the village, there is no First Bus service to the area, unlike all other suburban villages.

You're exactly right, except ... oops ... let's look at villages of a similar size to Stockton-on-the-Fore

st:
Naburn - buses by Arriva and Utopia, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm (later on Saturday only)
Rufforth - buses by Connexions and Eddie Brown, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.35pm
Skelton - buses by Reliance and Stephensons, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm
Elvington - buses by Transdev and East Yorkshire, not First. Last bus leaves York at 5.50pm
Wheldrake - buses by Transdev, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.25pm (later on Friday and Saturday only)

Sure, SOTF doesn't have the same level of service as places like Haxby and Poppleton and Bishopthorpe, but it's only a fraction of the size, so that's exactly what you would expect.

Having a last bus back at 9.20pm puts SOTF in a much better position than most comparable villages around the edge of York – can you justify why SOTF should get a better evening service when all the others get nothing, or are you going to campaign for fairness across the whole city?
Indeed... East Huntington's last bus leaves Stonebow at 4.40pm. Whilst there might be scope for a friday/saturday service leaving York at, for example, 10.30pm to SOTF - the service was reduced because there weren't enough people using it, and because the service is otherwise quite successful, NYCC won't subsidise the late night buses continuing to Malton; so it's either a case of drumming up pretty much every other person in the villaqge to use the late night services, or put pressure on York council to subsidise extensions.
[quote][p][bold]Stevie D[/bold] wrote: [quote]Furthermore, due to the Coastliner service having served the village, there is no First Bus service to the area, unlike all other suburban villages.[/quote] You're exactly right, except ... oops ... let's look at villages of a similar size to Stockton-on-the-Fore st: [bold]Naburn[/bold] - buses by Arriva and Utopia, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm (later on Saturday only) [bold]Rufforth[/bold] - buses by Connexions and Eddie Brown, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.35pm [bold]Skelton[/bold] - buses by Reliance and Stephensons, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.30pm [bold]Elvington[/bold] - buses by Transdev and East Yorkshire, not First. Last bus leaves York at 5.50pm [bold]Wheldrake[/bold] - buses by Transdev, not First. Last bus leaves York at 6.25pm (later on Friday and Saturday only) Sure, SOTF doesn't have the same level of service as places like Haxby and Poppleton and Bishopthorpe, but it's only a fraction of the size, so that's exactly what you would expect. Having a last bus back at 9.20pm puts SOTF in a much better position than most comparable villages around the edge of York – can you justify why SOTF should get a better evening service when all the others get nothing, or are you going to campaign for fairness across the whole city?[/p][/quote]Indeed... East Huntington's last bus leaves Stonebow at 4.40pm. Whilst there might be scope for a friday/saturday service leaving York at, for example, 10.30pm to SOTF - the service was reduced because there weren't enough people using it, and because the service is otherwise quite successful, NYCC won't subsidise the late night buses continuing to Malton; so it's either a case of drumming up pretty much every other person in the villaqge to use the late night services, or put pressure on York council to subsidise extensions. Magicman!
  • Score: 5

2:48pm Sat 18 Jan 14

zorpie says...

How are the Lib Dems able to do anything about this? They don't have an MP or a Councillor for Stockton. They're merely trying to take credit for the hard work of Julian Sturdy MP and Cllr Paul Doughty.

So typical of the Lib Dems, directionless, beta-individuals, hanging on the coat tails of those willing to take action in a desperate attempt to take partial credit.
How are the Lib Dems able to do anything about this? They don't have an MP or a Councillor for Stockton. They're merely trying to take credit for the hard work of Julian Sturdy MP and Cllr Paul Doughty. So typical of the Lib Dems, directionless, beta-individuals, hanging on the coat tails of those willing to take action in a desperate attempt to take partial credit. zorpie
  • Score: 1

11:00am Thu 23 Jan 14

BishopthorpeLion says...

Zorpie (narrow-minded member of the Conservative party) appears to live in a fictional world.

Tony Fisher, the Lib Dem for the area, was the first to launch the petition, has been in constant contact with the residents of Stockton (my uncle being one of them), and has already presented a petition to Transdev and been in discussions with the company about finding a practical solution to the issue.

Interesting that the BBC decided to contact Tony Fisher to talk about the issue on the Sunday Politics, choosing him over Zorbie's beloved Sturdy and Doughty.

I have no problem with people being brainwashed party hacks, if it makes them happy, so be it. But fair is fair, and credit should be awarded where it's due. In this instance, Tony Fisher has worked far harder than the (elected!!!) Tory politicians for the area, I for one am grateful.
Zorpie (narrow-minded member of the Conservative party) appears to live in a fictional world. Tony Fisher, the Lib Dem for the area, was the first to launch the petition, has been in constant contact with the residents of Stockton (my uncle being one of them), and has already presented a petition to Transdev and been in discussions with the company about finding a practical solution to the issue. Interesting that the BBC decided to contact Tony Fisher to talk about the issue on the Sunday Politics, choosing him over Zorbie's beloved Sturdy and Doughty. I have no problem with people being brainwashed party hacks, if it makes them happy, so be it. But fair is fair, and credit should be awarded where it's due. In this instance, Tony Fisher has worked far harder than the (elected!!!) Tory politicians for the area, I for one am grateful. BishopthorpeLion
  • Score: 0

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