A very clever man

York Press: A very clever man A very clever man

Not surprisingly, much has been said and written about Nelson Mandela. He has been described as being a good man, terrorist, freedom fighter, humble, kind, patient, understanding, tireless, hard working, sympathetic, unruffled, lovable, a family man, having a great sense of humour, brave, an icon and much more.

He was also a Communist, a member of the ANC, a black nationalist, non racialist, an opponent of armed struggle, and an advocate of violence, a hothead, and the calmest man in the room, a consumer of Marxism, and an admirer of western democracy. He was a Socialist but also a partner to capitalism.

He was a pragmatist and he cleverly supported whatever best suited the Africans of South Africa at any given time. He, more than any other person, prevented the bloodbath that most folk expected after the ending of apartheid.

It is usually said that “You cannot please all of the people, all of the time”.

However, Mandela got nearer to achieving that than any other politician anywhere in the world. Sadly, today’s South Africa is not even remotely like the nation Mandela had hoped to build. This is largely because no other African politician or leader is in the same league as Mandela.

I think the best, fairest and most appropriate title for Nelson Mandela is that he was a very clever man.

David Quarrie, Lynden Way, Holgate, York.

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9:35am Tue 24 Dec 13

Zetkin says...

Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting.

But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree.

Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration.
Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting. But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree. Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration. Zetkin

11:11am Tue 24 Dec 13

Zetkin says...

b-e-s-t-i-a-l asterisked out? It's political correctness gorn medd!
b-e-s-t-i-a-l asterisked out? It's political correctness gorn medd! Zetkin

2:49pm Tue 24 Dec 13

York Fox says...

Zetkin wrote:
Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting.

But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree.

Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration.
Can you name a leading Tory politician who called for Nelson Mandela to be hanged? Can you name any Tory politician that called for him to be hanged? I bet you might be able to find a few silly undergrads, who once who a sticker saying something similar, without any support from the the conservative party, not really understanding or believing it. I also bet that students of all political persuasions have done silly things.
[quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting. But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree. Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration.[/p][/quote]Can you name a leading Tory politician who called for Nelson Mandela to be hanged? Can you name any Tory politician that called for him to be hanged? I bet you might be able to find a few silly undergrads, who once who a sticker saying something similar, without any support from the the conservative party, not really understanding or believing it. I also bet that students of all political persuasions have done silly things. York Fox

3:20am Wed 25 Dec 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

I think DQ just about covered the man in all aspects of his life. No doubt some narrow minded folks will want certain truths air brushed out. But this is the Press, not the Guardian!
Mandela was indeed all of those things and that is quite remarkable.
I think DQ just about covered the man in all aspects of his life. No doubt some narrow minded folks will want certain truths air brushed out. But this is the Press, not the Guardian! Mandela was indeed all of those things and that is quite remarkable. ColdAsChristmas

2:26pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Jonthan says...

York Fox wrote:
Zetkin wrote:
Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting.

But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree.

Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration.
Can you name a leading Tory politician who called for Nelson Mandela to be hanged? Can you name any Tory politician that called for him to be hanged? I bet you might be able to find a few silly undergrads, who once who a sticker saying something similar, without any support from the the conservative party, not really understanding or believing it. I also bet that students of all political persuasions have done silly things.
Name a complicit Tory Politician ?
Glad to oblige The present speaker of the House of Commons, John Bercow, was president of the Young Conservatives when they campaigned to have Mandela hanged
[quote][p][bold]York Fox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: Mandela was certainly a complex and sometimes contradictory politician, reflecting the times in which he lived and the **** racism he devoted his life to fighting. But to reduce him to mere cleverness is taking far-right revisionism to the nth degree. Leading Tories have turned themselves inside out to try and pretend they never called for Mandela to be hanged as a terrorist, but Mr Quarrie takes that hypocrisy a step further and attempts to turn it into an attack on every other African leader, as if our home-grown politicians were models of integrity, intellect, and inspiration.[/p][/quote]Can you name a leading Tory politician who called for Nelson Mandela to be hanged? Can you name any Tory politician that called for him to be hanged? I bet you might be able to find a few silly undergrads, who once who a sticker saying something similar, without any support from the the conservative party, not really understanding or believing it. I also bet that students of all political persuasions have done silly things.[/p][/quote]Name a complicit Tory Politician ? Glad to oblige The present speaker of the House of Commons, John Bercow, was president of the Young Conservatives when they campaigned to have Mandela hanged Jonthan

2:50pm Wed 25 Dec 13

Jonthan says...

York Fox, here's a bit more detail to my posting above. This is from the Telegraph on Feb 12th 2010. Most members of the Federation of Conser
vative students were implicated, many of them are MP's today

"the Federation of Conservative Students, which in those days had Mark McGregor and current Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow among their leaders, proposed motions calling for Nelson Mandela to be executed as a terrorist. They wore suits with collars and ties and lapel badges screaming "Hang Nelson Mandela." Truly barking boys on the wrong side of history."

"They were not entirely alone. Margaret Thatcher denounced the ANC as a “typical terrorist organization,” and one of her strongest supporters, Teddy Taylor, said Nelson Mandela “should be shot.”

York Fox, there is no shame in being wrong occasionally. Please post an apology.
York Fox, here's a bit more detail to my posting above. This is from the Telegraph on Feb 12th 2010. Most members of the Federation of Conser vative students were implicated, many of them are MP's today "the Federation of Conservative Students, which in those days had Mark McGregor and current Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow among their leaders, proposed motions calling for Nelson Mandela to be executed as a terrorist. They wore suits with collars and ties and lapel badges screaming "Hang Nelson Mandela." Truly barking boys on the wrong side of history." "They were not entirely alone. Margaret Thatcher denounced the ANC as a “typical terrorist organization,” and one of her strongest supporters, Teddy Taylor, said Nelson Mandela “should be shot.” York Fox, there is no shame in being wrong occasionally. Please post an apology. Jonthan

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