Time to drop this

York Press: Time to drop this Time to drop this

I SHOULD have thought by the number of letters about the 20mph zoning that have appeared in The Press opposing this idea that the anti-car brigade on the council would have dropped it by now.

Anne Semlyen would like to include Nunnery Lane and Gillygate in the scheme. She doesn’t appear to do any research before putting pen to paper.

As for Fishergate, where she lives, she seems unaware that the area has been a 20mph zone for the past three years?

As for the Government giving Cambridge taxpayers money to introduce the scheme there, this still doesn’t mean it is working there without doing a bit of research.

Now is the time to bombard Coun Dave Merrett’s website about repairing the potholes in the roads. I did suggest six weeks ago that the council pursue the utility companies to repair the damage they leave behind, but that too has fallen on deaf ears.

EA Carter, Marston Crescent, Acomb, York.

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2:52pm Tue 24 Dec 13

CaroleBaines says...

What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is. I have a car, love driving it, but still recognise that this city has reached its capacity for traffic, we cannot build more roads in the centre and alternatives need to be found. That is not 'anti-car' - I am not in a 'brigade' or any other cliché E.A. Carter wants to adopt. Am just speaking common sense!

If I were to be critical of the Council it would be too much tinkering and not enough bold moves to solve this problem. Been the same for years. Lets have bolder idea - trams, bus price restrictions, Poppleton station park and ride - anything.
What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is. I have a car, love driving it, but still recognise that this city has reached its capacity for traffic, we cannot build more roads in the centre and alternatives need to be found. That is not 'anti-car' - I am not in a 'brigade' or any other cliché E.A. Carter wants to adopt. Am just speaking common sense! If I were to be critical of the Council it would be too much tinkering and not enough bold moves to solve this problem. Been the same for years. Lets have bolder idea - trams, bus price restrictions, Poppleton station park and ride - anything. CaroleBaines

4:26pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Buzzz Light-year says...

What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is.

I couldn't agree more. Any of those groupings like "*whatever* brigade" and "*whichever* Nazis" do nothing but seek to divide, create schisms and oppositions.

When I see such language in a letter I find it hard to offer my full respect to its content.
[quote]What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is. [/quote] I couldn't agree more. Any of those groupings like "*whatever* brigade" and "*whichever* Nazis" do nothing but seek to divide, create schisms and oppositions. When I see such language in a letter I find it hard to offer my full respect to its content. Buzzz Light-year

5:08pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Igiveinthen says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is. I have a car, love driving it, but still recognise that this city has reached its capacity for traffic, we cannot build more roads in the centre and alternatives need to be found. That is not 'anti-car' - I am not in a 'brigade' or any other cliché E.A. Carter wants to adopt. Am just speaking common sense!

If I were to be critical of the Council it would be too much tinkering and not enough bold moves to solve this problem. Been the same for years. Lets have bolder idea - trams, bus price restrictions, Poppleton station park and ride - anything.
I agree with you to a point, I live within walking distance of the city centre so none of the 'car' restrictions affect me, what this council is not addressing is getting the traffic moving freely on the outskirts of York, banning cars or restricting them only moves them to other areas as we have seen with the Lendal Bridge fiasco, but yet again the council choose to ignore this problem.
As for Poppleton Station, I have friends who live in Poppleton who use this mode of transport to commute into the city rather than drive, I am sure it would be used by a lot more if apple parking were provided, also just think how much traffic levels would improve if a station were to be provided at Haxby.
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: What a turgid piece of rhetoric 'anti-car brigade' is. I have a car, love driving it, but still recognise that this city has reached its capacity for traffic, we cannot build more roads in the centre and alternatives need to be found. That is not 'anti-car' - I am not in a 'brigade' or any other cliché E.A. Carter wants to adopt. Am just speaking common sense! If I were to be critical of the Council it would be too much tinkering and not enough bold moves to solve this problem. Been the same for years. Lets have bolder idea - trams, bus price restrictions, Poppleton station park and ride - anything.[/p][/quote]I agree with you to a point, I live within walking distance of the city centre so none of the 'car' restrictions affect me, what this council is not addressing is getting the traffic moving freely on the outskirts of York, banning cars or restricting them only moves them to other areas as we have seen with the Lendal Bridge fiasco, but yet again the council choose to ignore this problem. As for Poppleton Station, I have friends who live in Poppleton who use this mode of transport to commute into the city rather than drive, I am sure it would be used by a lot more if apple parking were provided, also just think how much traffic levels would improve if a station were to be provided at Haxby. Igiveinthen

12:58am Wed 25 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

Couldn't agree more with all the above points... I've made my views known elsewhere on here about how certain junctions or roads could be tinkered with to squeeze a bit more capacity in them so as to then filter out nonessential 'shortcutting' traffic which is merely using the city centre so as not to wait at traffic lights on the inner ring road. This would allow better access for those who do have to drive from the outer reaches into the heart of the city centre (ie for the train station or a central buisness such as Aviva) and would help buses run more to time as there'd be no notable traffic on Lendal or Ouse bridges. People who have a car and have an actual need to use it for a certain journey should be able to do so... the problem in York is that there are a lot of people who have a car and see it as a god-given right to drive anywhere and everywhere even if they don't need to. As an example, a family member lives in Huntington and works on Shipton Road near the Homestead - to drive there at 8.30am would take 40-60 minutes because of all the traffic, so they cycle instead as it only takes 20 minutes; and yet there are other people doing that same journey and have a bike but will drive simply because of a "have car, must drive it" attitude.... and it's that attitude that is causing this city to come to a standstill twice each day. If you work at Wheldrake then you need to drive there, if you live on Eastfield Avenue in Haxby and work at Aviva in Tanners Moat then perhaps not; if you live on Highthorn Road and your kid attends Yearsley Grove primary school then ask yourself "do I really need to drive there when my child could walk home in 8 minutes?"....
Couldn't agree more with all the above points... I've made my views known elsewhere on here about how certain junctions or roads could be tinkered with to squeeze a bit more capacity in them so as to then filter out nonessential 'shortcutting' traffic which is merely using the city centre so as not to wait at traffic lights on the inner ring road. This would allow better access for those who do have to drive from the outer reaches into the heart of the city centre (ie for the train station or a central buisness such as Aviva) and would help buses run more to time as there'd be no notable traffic on Lendal or Ouse bridges. People who have a car and have an actual need to use it for a certain journey should be able to do so... the problem in York is that there are a lot of people who have a car and see it as a god-given right to drive anywhere and everywhere even if they don't need to. As an example, a family member lives in Huntington and works on Shipton Road near the Homestead - to drive there at 8.30am would take 40-60 minutes because of all the traffic, so they cycle instead as it only takes 20 minutes; and yet there are other people doing that same journey and have a bike but will drive simply because of a "have car, must drive it" attitude.... and it's that attitude that is causing this city to come to a standstill twice each day. If you work at Wheldrake then you need to drive there, if you live on Eastfield Avenue in Haxby and work at Aviva in Tanners Moat then perhaps not; if you live on Highthorn Road and your kid attends Yearsley Grove primary school then ask yourself "do I really need to drive there when my child could walk home in 8 minutes?".... Magicman!

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