Pushing the boundaries

York Press: . .

I WAS astounded and disturbed to read the feature article (The Press, December 5) concerning whether or not York should be part of West Yorkshire Combined Authority.

Personally I feel that York, apart from not having any geographical boundaries with any of the other proposed members of the authority, has much more empathy and relationships with North Yorkshire.

However, my main and serious consternation is that the city council and Government has launched this as a “major consultation” process with a closing date of January 2.

Taking out weekends, Christmas and New Year holidays that leaves 11 working days for citizens and businesses to respond, even assuming people are aware that this consultation is taking place.

Those who do not take The Press will be sublimely unaware of this ridiculous process.

This idea should be arrested before it develops its own semi secret momentum and becomes a deal by default.

Stuart Robson, Black Dyke Lane, Upper Poppleton.

 

• CAN anyone remember a certain John Prescott holding a referendum on whether to hold a referendum (true!) regarding a Yorkshire Parliament?

The result was a slap in the face. Nobody in their right mind would commit York to a junior partnership in a juggernaut council dominated by the West Yorkshire urban giant Leeds (The Press, December 5).

If in doubt, ask the worthy citizens of Ilkley what it was like to be swallowed by Bradford or the good folk of Otley, now a milch cow for Leeds, or Strensall/Haxby to be taken from Ryedale and put protesting into Greater York.

To find out that our local council has been discussing this proposal for a year, behind the veil of course, should be no surprise, I suppose, since it is their usual procedure in anything controversial. That doesn’t make it any the less insulting to the people of York.

It is bad enough to suffer our local councilors and their disastrous policies, Lendal Bridge, etc.

Does anyone think York would have much say in Metro-Yorkshire? Pigs will fly first. I hope that our city will give this proposal what it deserves, an Agincourt salute.

Charles Rushton, Pasture Close, Strensall.

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10:51am Sat 7 Dec 13

Oaklands Resident says...

The York Council will be expected to contribute around £4 million a year to this new authority. No one has satisfactorily explained where this money will come from.

Without facts like these any consultation is meaningless.
The York Council will be expected to contribute around £4 million a year to this new authority. No one has satisfactorily explained where this money will come from. Without facts like these any consultation is meaningless. Oaklands Resident

11:42am Sat 7 Dec 13

Rocking Horse says...

The WYCA alliance is an attempt to align York with Labour heartlands rather than the largely conservative North Yorkshire area. This is supposed to be a cross-party vehicle, but, the Labour majority will soon monopolise the decision making.

This is just another cynical stitch-up by Alexander and his inner circle, to endow Labour - more control for the control freaks !

Kick them out in 2015 !
The WYCA alliance is an attempt to align York with Labour heartlands rather than the largely conservative North Yorkshire area. This is supposed to be a cross-party vehicle, but, the Labour majority will soon monopolise the decision making. This is just another cynical stitch-up by Alexander and his inner circle, to endow Labour - more control for the control freaks ! Kick them out in 2015 ! Rocking Horse

4:46pm Sat 7 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road.

In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee.

Job done.

Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises.

If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it.
Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road. In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee. Job done. Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises. If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it. YOUWILLDOASISAY

2:21am Sun 8 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

Whilst York may technically lie in North Yorkshire, NY is quite a poor county because of large swathes of rural areas (the odd hamlet or village, lots of open moorland, farmsteads) with only two or perhaps three principal townships - and so York council looking to a richer area which the councillors think they can cling onto: Leeds.

The only thing I want York to join West Yorkshire on is making York part of the Metro Zone so we get subsidised (ie Cheaper) rail fares to Leeds, and better control over a certain bus company that is quite trigger-happy when it comes to rising fares but not as zealous to improve services outside of the 'Big Three' (excluding council-contracted Park and Ride services, the 'big three' are the 1,4 and 6)
Whilst York may technically lie in North Yorkshire, NY is quite a poor county because of large swathes of rural areas (the odd hamlet or village, lots of open moorland, farmsteads) with only two or perhaps three principal townships - and so York council looking to a richer area which the councillors think they can cling onto: Leeds. The only thing I want York to join West Yorkshire on is making York part of the Metro Zone so we get subsidised (ie Cheaper) rail fares to Leeds, and better control over a certain bus company that is quite trigger-happy when it comes to rising fares but not as zealous to improve services outside of the 'Big Three' (excluding council-contracted Park and Ride services, the 'big three' are the 1,4 and 6) Magicman!

1:03pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Pottsy1 says...

This is a disaster waiting to happen. York might only be 20 miles from Leeds but it has no affinity with the West Riding and should strengthen it's role in both East and North Yorkshire. A tie up with Leeds has been considered before and rightly dismissed as the only beneficiaries will be West Yorkshire businesses taking work from local firms.

Politicians are simply not the best people to decide this and the current Labout leadership seem particularly out of touch with this City and it's people.
This is a disaster waiting to happen. York might only be 20 miles from Leeds but it has no affinity with the West Riding and should strengthen it's role in both East and North Yorkshire. A tie up with Leeds has been considered before and rightly dismissed as the only beneficiaries will be West Yorkshire businesses taking work from local firms. Politicians are simply not the best people to decide this and the current Labout leadership seem particularly out of touch with this City and it's people. Pottsy1

10:23am Mon 9 Dec 13

Lunatic says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road.

In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee.

Job done.

Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises.

If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it.
Actually, if you read reports given by the Press in other articles, the time since the closure of Lendal Bridge has actually seen a reduced level of traffic on the outer ringroad.

Yeah, struck me as odd too. But I didn't want you to feel you were basing your entire point on a lie.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road. In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee. Job done. Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises. If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it.[/p][/quote]Actually, if you read reports given by the Press in other articles, the time since the closure of Lendal Bridge has actually seen a reduced level of traffic on the outer ringroad. Yeah, struck me as odd too. But I didn't want you to feel you were basing your entire point on a lie. Lunatic

10:26am Mon 9 Dec 13

Lunatic says...

Okay, I get that people are against this. But people saying York and the West Riding are unrelated, have no affinity, etc...

You do all realise that York was once part of the West Riding, right, until 1974? Just look up West Riding of the County of York and the County of the City of York.

I know this is neither here nor there in regards to the issue, but please; at least learn a little historical context before making your claim.
Okay, I get that people are against this. But people saying York and the West Riding are unrelated, have no affinity, etc... You do all realise that York was once part of the West Riding, right, until 1974? Just look up West Riding of the County of York and the County of the City of York. I know this is neither here nor there in regards to the issue, but please; at least learn a little historical context before making your claim. Lunatic

11:59am Mon 9 Dec 13

MrsHoney says...

I think people are saying with regards to afifinity, (or perhaps it's just me) that York has nothing in common with the West Riding, it's a dump! I do not wish to be associated with it, North Yorkshire is far more fitting. Trust Labour to try and pull everyone down to the lowest denominator.
I think people are saying with regards to afifinity, (or perhaps it's just me) that York has nothing in common with the West Riding, it's a dump! I do not wish to be associated with it, North Yorkshire is far more fitting. Trust Labour to try and pull everyone down to the lowest denominator. MrsHoney

12:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Firedrake says...

York was not part of the West Riding. It was an old style "County Borough" (ie a county in its own right) at the point where the three Ridings met. Historically, however, it was responsible for a small corner of the West Riding known as the Ainsty. I'm not sure when that responsibility responsibility was dropped, but I think it was well before 1974 when the Ridings were abolished and York "went into" the new county of North Yorkshire.
York was not part of the West Riding. It was an old style "County Borough" (ie a county in its own right) at the point where the three Ridings met. Historically, however, it was responsible for a small corner of the West Riding known as the Ainsty. I'm not sure when that responsibility responsibility was dropped, but I think it was well before 1974 when the Ridings were abolished and York "went into" the new county of North Yorkshire. Firedrake

8:26pm Mon 9 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Lunatic wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road.

In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee.

Job done.

Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises.

If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it.
Actually, if you read reports given by the Press in other articles, the time since the closure of Lendal Bridge has actually seen a reduced level of traffic on the outer ringroad.

Yeah, struck me as odd too. But I didn't want you to feel you were basing your entire point on a lie.
How very odd, even the councils project report predicts an increase.

Yet the press reports a decrease based probably on council data.

Strange world, but then 15,000 more bus passengers per week as reported by First and the ever increasing number of cyclists as quoted by Merrett.

The lie exists not in the point I make but the information received.
[quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Restrict Lendal Bridge increasing traffic levels on the outer ring-road. In come the cavalry in the form of West Yorkshire Combined Authority with a maybe possible solution to duel, if and when but no guarantee. Job done. Labour West Yorkshire gets York and we get promises. If ever there were a reason for York residents to make their opinions heard and strongly reject, this is it.[/p][/quote]Actually, if you read reports given by the Press in other articles, the time since the closure of Lendal Bridge has actually seen a reduced level of traffic on the outer ringroad. Yeah, struck me as odd too. But I didn't want you to feel you were basing your entire point on a lie.[/p][/quote]How very odd, even the councils project report predicts an increase. Yet the press reports a decrease based probably on council data. Strange world, but then 15,000 more bus passengers per week as reported by First and the ever increasing number of cyclists as quoted by Merrett. The lie exists not in the point I make but the information received. YOUWILLDOASISAY

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