Lights are unwanted

I COMPLETELY agree with Matthew Laverack’s version of the traffic lights near the Monkgate roundabout (Letters, February 25).

What were the city planners thinking about in putting lights there? At either end of Heworth Green there are two roundabouts which cope quite well with the traffic from four directions.

While I’m on about traffic lights, there are many places where the traffic flow would go better with a mini-roundabout rather than traffic lights. Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.

M Hodgson, Huntington Road, York.

 

• PERHAPS they could use the dormant traffic lights at Heworth Green to replace those knocked down between Christmas and New Year near Heworth roundabout.

Peter Jarvis, Cherry Wood Crescent, Fulford, York.

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11:07am Wed 27 Feb 13

George Appleby says...

Hear hear!
Hear hear! George Appleby
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12:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Stevie D says...

Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.
Given the total antipathy that most taxi drivers show to every other road user, and the number of laws they regularly flout (particularly at traffic lights), it isn't surprising that they would welcome anything that takes away control and gives them more scope to bully other drivers and force their way through – I'm not sure that I would want to take their word as gospel on any road-related matter! Pedestrians in particular can find busy junctions very difficult to cross safely without traffic lights.
[quote]Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.[/quote]Given the total antipathy that most taxi drivers show to every other road user, and the number of laws they regularly flout (particularly at traffic lights), it isn't surprising that they would welcome anything that takes away control and gives them more scope to bully other drivers and force their way through – I'm not sure that I would want to take their word as gospel on any road-related matter! Pedestrians in particular can find busy junctions very difficult to cross safely without traffic lights. Stevie D
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1:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.

I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said.
Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past.

I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything.

And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians.
[quote]Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.[/quote] I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said. Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past. I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything. And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians. Buzz Light-year
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10:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.

I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said.
Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past.

I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything.

And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians.
Will you give it a rest beating up Taxi drivers and
the storys about there driving. As tiresome to read as the postings by a certain cretin regarding cycles, cyclists, cycle paths, cycle lamps, cycle helmets. If you really have a concern with some, or one, take down the number from the maroon plate and report them to Taxi Licensing instead of berating the whole of the trade on hear. Yawn, yawn, stretch and yawn.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.[/quote] I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said. Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past. I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything. And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians.[/p][/quote]Will you give it a rest beating up Taxi drivers and the storys about there driving. As tiresome to read as the postings by a certain cretin regarding cycles, cyclists, cycle paths, cycle lamps, cycle helmets. If you really have a concern with some, or one, take down the number from the maroon plate and report them to Taxi Licensing instead of berating the whole of the trade on hear. Yawn, yawn, stretch and yawn. Yorkborneinbse
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7:48am Thu 28 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

No I won't give it a rest.
I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness.
If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored.

As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police.
So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing.
Even when they deliberately drive into you.

They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s.
No I won't give it a rest. I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness. If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored. As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police. So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing. Even when they deliberately drive into you. They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s. Buzz Light-year
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11:06am Thu 28 Feb 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
No I won't give it a rest.
I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness.
If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored.

As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police.
So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing.
Even when they deliberately drive into you.

They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s.
So, no Joy at either Taxi Licensing or the Police. What do you hope to achieve moaning about it on here then ?
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: No I won't give it a rest. I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness. If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored. As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police. So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing. Even when they deliberately drive into you. They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s.[/p][/quote]So, no Joy at either Taxi Licensing or the Police. What do you hope to achieve moaning about it on here then ? Yorkborneinbse
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11:57am Thu 28 Feb 13

TheTruthHurts says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
No I won't give it a rest.
I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness.
If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored.

As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police.
So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing.
Even when they deliberately drive into you.

They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s.
I Agree with Buzz, I cycle 10 miles everyday (wind, rain or shine) and the worst drivers in York are taxi drivers. They are often making dangerous turns, pushing in, pulling out where its not safe to do so. Often parking across cycle lanes on busy roads, often waiting in the cycle box at traffic lights, often jumping the lights, or racing to catch a green light i could go on and on and on.
'
Nobody is perfect on the roads but taxi drivers are the worst by some margin. some considerable margin!
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: No I won't give it a rest. I'm not "beating up taxi drivers" I'm describing the everyday routine dangerous arrogance I experience and witness. If they change their behaviour then I can stop and you won't have to be so bored. As it is they aren't going to change because I've tried what you suggest. I've taken the plate number and reported them to taxi licensing. Taxi licensing say there's nothing they can do try the police. So I've tried the police. They say there's nothing they can do try taxi licensing. Even when they deliberately drive into you. They can do what they want with impunity and they know it. That's why they behave like ****s.[/p][/quote]I Agree with Buzz, I cycle 10 miles everyday (wind, rain or shine) and the worst drivers in York are taxi drivers. They are often making dangerous turns, pushing in, pulling out where its not safe to do so. Often parking across cycle lanes on busy roads, often waiting in the cycle box at traffic lights, often jumping the lights, or racing to catch a green light i could go on and on and on. ' Nobody is perfect on the roads but taxi drivers are the worst by some margin. some considerable margin! TheTruthHurts
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1:18pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Thank you TruthHurts.
Another voice to reinforce what I said is appreciated.


@Yorkborneinbse -
I hope to hear others who've had similar experiences and raise awareness that neither the law nor the local authority is prepared to deal with dangerous drivers.
You seem to be more bothered about me commenting here than with the safety of York's citizens on the roads.
Seems a bit wrong that.
Thank you TruthHurts. Another voice to reinforce what I said is appreciated. @Yorkborneinbse - I hope to hear others who've had similar experiences and raise awareness that neither the law nor the local authority is prepared to deal with dangerous drivers. You seem to be more bothered about me commenting here than with the safety of York's citizens on the roads. Seems a bit wrong that. Buzz Light-year
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6:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers.
You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true.
I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong.

Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ?
Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers. You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true. I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong. Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ? Yorkborneinbse
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6:28pm Thu 28 Feb 13

pedalling paul says...

Yorkborneinbse wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.

I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said.
Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past.

I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything.

And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians.
Will you give it a rest beating up Taxi drivers and
the storys about there driving. As tiresome to read as the postings by a certain cretin regarding cycles, cyclists, cycle paths, cycle lamps, cycle helmets. If you really have a concern with some, or one, take down the number from the maroon plate and report them to Taxi Licensing instead of berating the whole of the trade on hear. Yawn, yawn, stretch and yawn.
Would you like to withdraw your "cretin" reference, and avoid the need for me to bring your comment to the moderator's attention.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkborneinbse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]Any taxi driver will tell you that when lights are not working the flow of traffic is much better.[/quote] I echo Stevie D's excellent post. Never a truer word said. Last week, twice in the same day, the same driver tried to pass me on my bike when there wasn't even room to do so, once while I was overtaking a parked car and there was a bus coming the other way. Idiot just saw a bike and automatically thought that he needed to be past. I wouldn't trust the word of a taxi driver on anything. And yes, traffic may flow better but traffic lights are there for a reason, for all of us, particularly pedestrians.[/p][/quote]Will you give it a rest beating up Taxi drivers and the storys about there driving. As tiresome to read as the postings by a certain cretin regarding cycles, cyclists, cycle paths, cycle lamps, cycle helmets. If you really have a concern with some, or one, take down the number from the maroon plate and report them to Taxi Licensing instead of berating the whole of the trade on hear. Yawn, yawn, stretch and yawn.[/p][/quote]Would you like to withdraw your "cretin" reference, and avoid the need for me to bring your comment to the moderator's attention. pedalling paul
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10:15pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Tut, If you can answer me this. Why would you think the reference was related to you?
Tut, If you can answer me this. Why would you think the reference was related to you? Yorkborneinbse
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4:52am Fri 1 Mar 13

Magicman! says...

Yorkborneinbse wrote:
Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers.
You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true.
I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong.

Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ?
ARGH! use the word 'bigoted' properly!

most taxi drivers don't know how to drive properly. A fouple of years ago I had a run in with a pakistani one who tried to overtake me on the corner of Peasholme Green whilst I was passing a parked car and a bus was coming the other way, he was fuming at me honking the horn at him and he had a go at me at the Foss junction traffic lights, and then when I came out of the (now asda) supermarket he was going past on the road and had another go at me again. Needless to say I haven't seen him around for ages (not since that incident) so I well suspect somebody walking past took offense to him shouting the F word and using the one fingered salute in public.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkborneinbse[/bold] wrote: Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers. You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true. I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong. Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ?[/p][/quote]ARGH! use the word 'bigoted' properly! most taxi drivers don't know how to drive properly. A fouple of years ago I had a run in with a pakistani one who tried to overtake me on the corner of Peasholme Green whilst I was passing a parked car and a bus was coming the other way, he was fuming at me honking the horn at him and he had a go at me at the Foss junction traffic lights, and then when I came out of the (now asda) supermarket he was going past on the road and had another go at me again. Needless to say I haven't seen him around for ages (not since that incident) so I well suspect somebody walking past took offense to him shouting the F word and using the one fingered salute in public. Magicman!
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4:55pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Magicman! wrote:
Yorkborneinbse wrote:
Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers.
You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true.
I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong.

Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ?
ARGH! use the word 'bigoted' properly!

most taxi drivers don't know how to drive properly. A fouple of years ago I had a run in with a pakistani one who tried to overtake me on the corner of Peasholme Green whilst I was passing a parked car and a bus was coming the other way, he was fuming at me honking the horn at him and he had a go at me at the Foss junction traffic lights, and then when I came out of the (now asda) supermarket he was going past on the road and had another go at me again. Needless to say I haven't seen him around for ages (not since that incident) so I well suspect somebody walking past took offense to him shouting the F word and using the one fingered salute in public.
Mmm, I dont think I should take your advice on the correct use or spellings of words do you, for a COUPLE of reasons.

A Bigot is someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred. I think my use of the word was correct.
Secondly, you are in no place to advise my friend reading your posting.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkborneinbse[/bold] wrote: Buzz, not wishing to strip away your sentiments and concerns, far from it. I merely wish the word 'some', or 'one', ever graced your bigoted view of Taxi drivers. You paint a poor picture of Taxi drivers, in which the whole picture is simply not true. I was once cut up by a female driver, does that make all female drivers a menace?, I also remember once being overtaken by a young driver, on a double white, does that make all young drivers a menace? No, there are good and bad in all walks, to smear them with the same bigoted view is simply wrong, very wrong. Now, please excuse me whilst I go and hunt down a 4x4 driver to berate, and abuse, Cos ALL of them are a menace on the roads arent they ?[/p][/quote]ARGH! use the word 'bigoted' properly! most taxi drivers don't know how to drive properly. A fouple of years ago I had a run in with a pakistani one who tried to overtake me on the corner of Peasholme Green whilst I was passing a parked car and a bus was coming the other way, he was fuming at me honking the horn at him and he had a go at me at the Foss junction traffic lights, and then when I came out of the (now asda) supermarket he was going past on the road and had another go at me again. Needless to say I haven't seen him around for ages (not since that incident) so I well suspect somebody walking past took offense to him shouting the F word and using the one fingered salute in public.[/p][/quote]Mmm, I dont think I should take your advice on the correct use or spellings of words do you, for a COUPLE of reasons. A Bigot is someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred. I think my use of the word was correct. Secondly, you are in no place to advise my friend reading your posting. Yorkborneinbse
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12:56am Sat 2 Mar 13

Magicman! says...

Not really, because the term Bigot is normally used against racist people or people with a sexist attitude, not just towards somebody who dislikes taxi drivers because most of them don't know how to drive properly. Anybody working in motor insurance will know a taxi driver, because as soon as their name is entered into the system it'll bring up a large number of collisions, many more than for delivery drivers or normal drivers.

People make their decisions on how to judge a group of people by their experiences. And if taxi drivers were such a well behaved group of professionals only tainted by a couple of people per city then why do comedians and columnists all have routines based around taxi drivers?
Not really, because the term Bigot is normally used against racist people or people with a sexist attitude, not just towards somebody who dislikes taxi drivers because most of them don't know how to drive properly. Anybody working in motor insurance will know a taxi driver, because as soon as their name is entered into the system it'll bring up a large number of collisions, many more than for delivery drivers or normal drivers. People make their decisions on how to judge a group of people by their experiences. And if taxi drivers were such a well behaved group of professionals only tainted by a couple of people per city then why do comedians and columnists all have routines based around taxi drivers? Magicman!
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8:16am Sat 2 Mar 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

Magicman! wrote:
Not really, because the term Bigot is normally used against racist people or people with a sexist attitude, not just towards somebody who dislikes taxi drivers because most of them don't know how to drive properly. Anybody working in motor insurance will know a taxi driver, because as soon as their name is entered into the system it'll bring up a large number of collisions, many more than for delivery drivers or normal drivers.

People make their decisions on how to judge a group of people by their experiences. And if taxi drivers were such a well behaved group of professionals only tainted by a couple of people per city then why do comedians and columnists all have routines based around taxi drivers?
Oh dear, you are so so wrong here I won't waste any more of my time. Normally?, it is normal to use words in the manner of their meaning. I am correct, though granted some words are used in differing but still correct uses. Like the word fool.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: Not really, because the term Bigot is normally used against racist people or people with a sexist attitude, not just towards somebody who dislikes taxi drivers because most of them don't know how to drive properly. Anybody working in motor insurance will know a taxi driver, because as soon as their name is entered into the system it'll bring up a large number of collisions, many more than for delivery drivers or normal drivers. People make their decisions on how to judge a group of people by their experiences. And if taxi drivers were such a well behaved group of professionals only tainted by a couple of people per city then why do comedians and columnists all have routines based around taxi drivers?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you are so so wrong here I won't waste any more of my time. Normally?, it is normal to use words in the manner of their meaning. I am correct, though granted some words are used in differing but still correct uses. Like the word fool. Yorkborneinbse
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