What is tradition?

First published in Letters by

GAY marriage is looming and this has stirred many reactions. Traditionalists insist this will undermine what marriage stands for, but will it really?

Half of all couples live together nowadays as they don’t believe in marriage, of those who do marry, half will divorce. There are marriages of convenience, sham marriages and open marriages where couples allow each other to see other people, no strings attached. Some people freely admit to being swingers.

Many married people have affairs with members of their own or opposite sex, sometimes resulting in pregnancy. A friend of mine was adopted as his married mother’s husband was not his father. I also know a married mother of two having an extra marital affair with another woman, yet her husband stands by her.

Traditionalists should think again before stating that gay marriage will undermine the meaning of marriage. Marriage vows mean little to most people, quite clearly.

Robert Brown, Eastward Avenue, Fulford, York.

 

• THE vote on equal marriage showed how far we have come as a country. It would be foolish to forget the amazing people who have fought for such equality.

All those people who have been wronged on the way such as Alan Turing, or those brave people who took part in the first gay rights march. It is important to note that this positive vote on equal marriage is merely a step to a more equal society.

The fact that we are only on the way to equality can be seen in most schools around the country. Despite fantastic efforts by Stonewall, the word ‘gay’ is still used as an insult and in some cases even worse can be used.

Only at the start of this month was it published that a 16-year-old may have committed suicide due to two years of harassment over his sexuality.

It is time more was done; not a police state controlling what people can and cannot say, but informing students that it does not matter about an individual’s sexuality as we are equal.

Another area of issue is football. Is it time that we see Government put pressure on the FA to stamp out racism and homophobic abuse.

Daniel Wrigglesworth, Heworth, York.

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2:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

George Appleby says...

I'm lucky. On June 24th 1950 my marriage to Sylvia, Irene Wroe at Heworth Church (mid summer day), in the company of 100 guests, will have taken us through 12 different homes in Brompton near Northallerton, York, West Midlands, Reading and back to where it started for the last 27 years in May. We have shared all the ups and downs of life and still have regular disagreements but wouldn't have it any other way.

I would not want to deprive or devalue this for anyone, regardless of their sexes.
I'm lucky. On June 24th 1950 my marriage to Sylvia, Irene Wroe at Heworth Church (mid summer day), in the company of 100 guests, will have taken us through 12 different homes in Brompton near Northallerton, York, West Midlands, Reading and back to where it started for the last 27 years in May. We have shared all the ups and downs of life and still have regular disagreements but wouldn't have it any other way. I would not want to deprive or devalue this for anyone, regardless of their sexes. George Appleby
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5:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13

twotonethomas says...

George Appleby wrote:
I'm lucky. On June 24th 1950 my marriage to Sylvia, Irene Wroe at Heworth Church (mid summer day), in the company of 100 guests, will have taken us through 12 different homes in Brompton near Northallerton, York, West Midlands, Reading and back to where it started for the last 27 years in May. We have shared all the ups and downs of life and still have regular disagreements but wouldn't have it any other way.

I would not want to deprive or devalue this for anyone, regardless of their sexes.
Excellent letter George.

I've been married for 25 yrs this year and want to know why homosexuals shouldn't have to suffer the same fate LOL
[quote][p][bold]George Appleby[/bold] wrote: I'm lucky. On June 24th 1950 my marriage to Sylvia, Irene Wroe at Heworth Church (mid summer day), in the company of 100 guests, will have taken us through 12 different homes in Brompton near Northallerton, York, West Midlands, Reading and back to where it started for the last 27 years in May. We have shared all the ups and downs of life and still have regular disagreements but wouldn't have it any other way. I would not want to deprive or devalue this for anyone, regardless of their sexes.[/p][/quote]Excellent letter George. I've been married for 25 yrs this year and want to know why homosexuals shouldn't have to suffer the same fate LOL twotonethomas
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8:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Richard Feynman says...

'...not a police state controlling what people can and cannot say...'

'Is it time that we see Government put pressure on the FA to stamp out racism and homophobic abuse.'

*Golf clap*
'...not a police state controlling what people can and cannot say...' 'Is it time that we see Government put pressure on the FA to stamp out racism and homophobic abuse.' *Golf clap* Richard Feynman
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8:52pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Dan595 says...

Richard Feynman wrote:
'...not a police state controlling what people can and cannot say...'

'Is it time that we see Government put pressure on the FA to stamp out racism and homophobic abuse.'

*Golf clap*
Well the FA say they are doing so but they aren't, it's a position is society that people look to. If the FA allow racism and homophobia to happen it will be more likely to occur more and more
[quote][p][bold]Richard Feynman[/bold] wrote: '...not a police state controlling what people can and cannot say...' 'Is it time that we see Government put pressure on the FA to stamp out racism and homophobic abuse.' *Golf clap*[/p][/quote]Well the FA say they are doing so but they aren't, it's a position is society that people look to. If the FA allow racism and homophobia to happen it will be more likely to occur more and more Dan595
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9:35pm Tue 19 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Equality and all female shortlists, what do you propose to do about that?
Equality and all female shortlists, what do you propose to do about that? ColdAsChristmas
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11:04pm Tue 19 Feb 13

PKH says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Equality and all female shortlists, what do you propose to do about that?
The TUC has conferences for Women, Black Workers and Lesbian, Gay and Transgender. However it would be seen as discrimination if there was a Straight Men's Conference. Minority groups are fast becoming more equal than the average citizen.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Equality and all female shortlists, what do you propose to do about that?[/p][/quote]The TUC has conferences for Women, Black Workers and Lesbian, Gay and Transgender. However it would be seen as discrimination if there was a Straight Men's Conference. Minority groups are fast becoming more equal than the average citizen. PKH
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3:27am Thu 21 Feb 13

Magicman! says...

I wouldn't have used the word "Stonewall" in the same sentance as the words "good work"... as they seem to be bigoted in a counter-normal way, in that they seem to feel anybody who just says anything along the lines of "I personally don't approve of gay marriage" should either lose their job or be put in prison. I'm all for equal rights and in no way would say that homosexual persons should be put in prison or worse, in the same way as I would not advocate sending people of other races who have settled here for generatuions back to their races' country of origin - but to retain equal rights in the purest form, groups like Stonewall must accept there will be some people who do not accept their views and learn to live with it.
I wouldn't have used the word "Stonewall" in the same sentance as the words "good work"... as they seem to be bigoted in a counter-normal way, in that they seem to feel anybody who just says anything along the lines of "I personally don't approve of gay marriage" should either lose their job or be put in prison. I'm all for equal rights and in no way would say that homosexual persons should be put in prison or worse, in the same way as I would not advocate sending people of other races who have settled here for generatuions back to their races' country of origin - but to retain equal rights in the purest form, groups like Stonewall must accept there will be some people who do not accept their views and learn to live with it. Magicman!
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