HS2 ideas on lines

YOUR headline of February 12 reads “York tax payers may face HS2 bill”. Of course they will.

The route to Leeds and Manchester has a headline cost of £33bn. That excludes the trains at £8bn and tax, included in the economic assessment, of 20.9 per cent.

Adding those yields £50bn, or nearly £2,000 for every household in the land. The financial losses after accruing fares out to the remote year of 2093 will also be close to £2,000 per household.

Probably those losses will be very much higher than that: after all, the income depends on the ludicrous passenger forecasts, requiring up to 18 1,000-seat trains per hour. Think HS1, for which initial forecasts were three times too high.

This folly, if built, will amount to a tax hit on Yorkshire, population, 5 million of £4 billion. How many jobs will that destroy in that part of the economy that makes a profit? It is said to create 100,000 jobs. At £50bn that amounts to £500,000 per job, for heaven’s sake.

Paul Withrington, Transport Watch, Redland Drive, Northampton.
 

• COUN IAN GILLIES appears not to understand the new HS2 link to York and the economic benefits the city will gain as a result.

The HS2 route will end just north of Church Fenton, where it will join the East Coast Main Line into York. So 99 per cent of an HS2 journey from London to York will be high-speed and the very small remainder at standard mainline rail speeds.

Given that journey times to Birmingham will be halved, and journey times to London reduced by a quarter, it is rather pedantic to dismiss its relevance by saying it will not come to York.

Given that Julian Sturdy MP, a Parliamentary Private Secretary to a Transport Minister, was involved in lobbying for HS2 to come this close to York, it is surprising that Coun Gillies is so poorly informed.

HS2 will obviously create new economic development opportunities for the city and that is to be welcomed.

Coun Dave Merrett, Cabinet Member for Planning, Transport and Sustainability.

Comments(5)

Hank-York says...
12:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Does this country in general support anything which brings us out of the dark ages in every aspect compared to the rest of Europe?

howehill exile says...
1:05pm Fri 15 Feb 13

A quick Google of Paul Withrington's Transport Watch shows that it is an organisation that claims to be a neutral commentator on transport matters but in reality is anti-rail with an agenda that pushes for conversion of railways into roads.

roclank2000 says...
1:44pm Fri 15 Feb 13

If I want to travel at hundreds of miles per hour to the south of England I can do so already, with no need to spend 30 billion plus and decimate lives. Spend 10% of that money on improving our airports, especially Leeds and other regional ones.

pedalling paul says...
1:48pm Fri 15 Feb 13

...not to mention the additional capacity that will be created on the ECML for non-HS2 travel. More freight capacity as well so fewer HGV's bunging up the A1.

Magicman! says...
3:39am Sun 17 Feb 13

roclank2000 wrote:
If I want to travel at hundreds of miles per hour to the south of England I can do so already, with no need to spend 30 billion plus and decimate lives. Spend 10% of that money on improving our airports, especially Leeds and other regional ones.
And teleportation to Leeds airport I suppose then? Domestic air travel is not sustainable, and checks at airports can take so long that if you had a "top gear" style race whereby one person went by car from Monks Cross to Leeds airport, then flew to london, whilst person 2 drove from monks cross to london and person 3 cycled from monks cross to the rail station and then got a train to london - all setting off at the same time - it'd be person 3 that got there first.

HS2 will be the biggest civil engineering project in the country after Crossrail has been completed, a major boost to not only anglo-scottish journeys but cross country journeys.... Currently a journey from York to south wales takes about 5 hours by train, 2 of those getting to Birmingham.... with HS2 you'd easily knock 60-90 minutes off that journey time.

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