Give meat to needy

IT HAS been reported that supermarkets have withdrawn beef lasagne and some ready meals since one such meal proved to contain 80 per cent horse meat.

One store has stated it has removed the meals from the shelves in order to have its own investigation. In the meantime, it is alleged that ten million beef burgers have been discarded.

There are regular stories in the media of strife-ridden countries, Africa, for example, where thousands of children and families are starving. These unfortunate people would be glad of any meat, and horsemeat would probably be a luxury.

Surely there must be a way to distribute this food surplus to these needy places?

J Beisly, Osprey Close, York.

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12:45pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

A nice idea in theory but animals not bred for human consumption are given supplements which can remain in the meat and can be harmful to humans.

Something overlooked by most commentators on this subject.
A nice idea in theory but animals not bred for human consumption are given supplements which can remain in the meat and can be harmful to humans. Something overlooked by most commentators on this subject. Buzz Light-year
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1:51pm Sat 9 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Right, but if the meat is fit for human consumption then it should be consumed. Why was it in the food chain in the first place?
I was disappointed this morning by the comments made by the member for Thirsk and Malton that eating horse meat was not a part of the culture of this country.
If throwing out allegedly good food while our people are hungry is our culture then I believe that the lady has a big problem.
And yes, she strongly believes in global warming.
Right, but if the meat is fit for human consumption then it should be consumed. Why was it in the food chain in the first place? I was disappointed this morning by the comments made by the member for Thirsk and Malton that eating horse meat was not a part of the culture of this country. If throwing out allegedly good food while our people are hungry is our culture then I believe that the lady has a big problem. And yes, she strongly believes in global warming. ColdAsChristmas
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1:57pm Sat 9 Feb 13

inthesticks says...

Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption.
Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption. inthesticks
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2:25pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Yorkborneinbse says...

inthesticks wrote:
Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption.
May I say, and so are you. Horse meet, Ostrich Meat, dog meat, or whatever meat is used, whilst it may be acceptable to retail it in some Countries, they will know exactly what it is. We didnt. This is the prime reason the recent events are so unacceptable, and distasteful. Excuse the pun.

In this case, we didn't know Beef Lasagne, Beef burgers contained Horse meat. Why? because in our culture, not many would have bought them.

Horse meat was not declared on the packaging, and the Packaging and Labelling regulations 2011, are very clear on the rules on this.

There will be a simple reason for this, and it will no doubt be because of profiteering by some. If Horse meat, pound for pound was more expensive than Beef, we wouldn't be discussing this Issue, cancer causing antibiotics or not.
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption.[/p][/quote]May I say, and so are you. Horse meet, Ostrich Meat, dog meat, or whatever meat is used, whilst it may be acceptable to retail it in some Countries, they will know exactly what it is. We didnt. This is the prime reason the recent events are so unacceptable, and distasteful. Excuse the pun. In this case, we didn't know Beef Lasagne, Beef burgers contained Horse meat. Why? because in our culture, not many would have bought them. Horse meat was not declared on the packaging, and the Packaging and Labelling regulations 2011, are very clear on the rules on this. There will be a simple reason for this, and it will no doubt be because of profiteering by some. If Horse meat, pound for pound was more expensive than Beef, we wouldn't be discussing this Issue, cancer causing antibiotics or not. Yorkborneinbse
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2:55pm Sat 9 Feb 13

inthesticks says...

Yorkborneinbse wrote:
inthesticks wrote:
Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption.
May I say, and so are you. Horse meet, Ostrich Meat, dog meat, or whatever meat is used, whilst it may be acceptable to retail it in some Countries, they will know exactly what it is. We didnt. This is the prime reason the recent events are so unacceptable, and distasteful. Excuse the pun.

In this case, we didn't know Beef Lasagne, Beef burgers contained Horse meat. Why? because in our culture, not many would have bought them.

Horse meat was not declared on the packaging, and the Packaging and Labelling regulations 2011, are very clear on the rules on this.

There will be a simple reason for this, and it will no doubt be because of profiteering by some. If Horse meat, pound for pound was more expensive than Beef, we wouldn't be discussing this Issue, cancer causing antibiotics or not.
You may say, it`s your opinion and you are entitled to it.
My issue is letter writer may think it`s OK to send what we don`t want to the needy, my issue is that they don`t want the cancer causing drugs either.
I happen to think that the drugs within the meat are a bigger scandal than the fact that the meat was not the meat you thought it was. However, you and many others may not be bothered about that and think the mislabelling of the meat is the bigger issue. I am more concerned about cancer than the thought of eating horse meat (as wrong as it is to make money out of putting a cheaper substitute meat in a product.)
[quote][p][bold]Yorkborneinbse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: Totally missing the point there. It`s not the horse meat that is the issue - it`s the cancer causing drugs that the horses have been given, therefore the meat is not fit for human consumption.[/p][/quote]May I say, and so are you. Horse meet, Ostrich Meat, dog meat, or whatever meat is used, whilst it may be acceptable to retail it in some Countries, they will know exactly what it is. We didnt. This is the prime reason the recent events are so unacceptable, and distasteful. Excuse the pun. In this case, we didn't know Beef Lasagne, Beef burgers contained Horse meat. Why? because in our culture, not many would have bought them. Horse meat was not declared on the packaging, and the Packaging and Labelling regulations 2011, are very clear on the rules on this. There will be a simple reason for this, and it will no doubt be because of profiteering by some. If Horse meat, pound for pound was more expensive than Beef, we wouldn't be discussing this Issue, cancer causing antibiotics or not.[/p][/quote]You may say, it`s your opinion and you are entitled to it. My issue is letter writer may think it`s OK to send what we don`t want to the needy, my issue is that they don`t want the cancer causing drugs either. I happen to think that the drugs within the meat are a bigger scandal than the fact that the meat was not the meat you thought it was. However, you and many others may not be bothered about that and think the mislabelling of the meat is the bigger issue. I am more concerned about cancer than the thought of eating horse meat (as wrong as it is to make money out of putting a cheaper substitute meat in a product.) inthesticks
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7:17pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Sillybillies says...

Buzz Light-year says...
12:45pm Sat 9 Feb 13

A nice idea in theory but animals not bred for human consumption are given supplements which can remain in the meat and can be harmful to humans.

Something overlooked by most commentators on this subject.

Most eloquently and elegantly put Buzz, and still being forgotten.
[quote]Buzz Light-year says... 12:45pm Sat 9 Feb 13 A nice idea in theory but animals not bred for human consumption are given supplements which can remain in the meat and can be harmful to humans. Something overlooked by most commentators on this subject.[/quote] Most eloquently and elegantly put Buzz, and still being forgotten. Sillybillies
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5:48am Sun 10 Feb 13

anistasia says...

Think about giving to people closer to home first low waged families people on benefits and pensioners.but only if the meat is safe to use in the first place.because there is doubt to if the meat is safe or not is it worth the risk.if it's not safe why would we or starving Africans want it.and if it is safe why would we want to send good food abroad.feed the needy in your own country first.
Think about giving to people closer to home first low waged families people on benefits and pensioners.but only if the meat is safe to use in the first place.because there is doubt to if the meat is safe or not is it worth the risk.if it's not safe why would we or starving Africans want it.and if it is safe why would we want to send good food abroad.feed the needy in your own country first. anistasia
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8:14pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Silver says...

Can we give it to Councillor Steward? Let him eat what we as not as lucky to be privliged to be have eaten.
Proper slice of humble pie there
Can we give it to Councillor Steward? Let him eat what we as not as lucky to be privliged to be have eaten. Proper slice of humble pie there Silver
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1:47am Mon 11 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Silver, it's Umble pie.
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I'm sure the horse meat eaten in France, Germany, Belgium and Netherlands will be fit for our food chain and if that is the case here it should not be wasted.
If it is not fit then we have a big problem on our hands, especially as we can't ban imports from say the new EU member states where perhaps standards may be somewhat different.
UK horse meat historically ended up in pet foods.
Silver, it's Umble pie. http://www.google.co .uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q =umble%20pie&source= web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved =0CEMQFjAD&url=http% 3A%2F%2Fwww.bartleby .com%2F81%2F16937.ht ml&ei=X0wYUYT7Kcio0A X_jYDQBw&usg=AFQjCNG vIPoW7n3Lj-0rqIV73MO yxQgbWQ&bvm=bv.42080 656,d.d2k I'm sure the horse meat eaten in France, Germany, Belgium and Netherlands will be fit for our food chain and if that is the case here it should not be wasted. If it is not fit then we have a big problem on our hands, especially as we can't ban imports from say the new EU member states where perhaps standards may be somewhat different. UK horse meat historically ended up in pet foods. ColdAsChristmas
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3:17pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Podlet says...

If it isn't fit for human consumption then it shouldn't be consumed. But how are we going to pay to keep the meat frozen whilst we send it to and distribute it amongst the sub-Saharan nations? Maybe we should just eat/drink more of their cash crops instead?
If it isn't fit for human consumption then it shouldn't be consumed. But how are we going to pay to keep the meat frozen whilst we send it to and distribute it amongst the sub-Saharan nations? Maybe we should just eat/drink more of their cash crops instead? Podlet
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9:09pm Tue 12 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

They have a nice earner exporting crops and of course some of it ends up as bio diesel and Ethanol that may well cause damage to your vehicle.
But answer this: if we are to build on the green belt to house an ever growing population then where do you expect our food to come from?

If it's safe to eat it needs correctly labeling and made ready to be consumed. (Where ever)
If it's not fit for human consumption it is either for pet food, depending on those standards or it is destroyed. Simple as that.
They have a nice earner exporting crops and of course some of it ends up as bio diesel and Ethanol that may well cause damage to your vehicle. But answer this: if we are to build on the green belt to house an ever growing population then where do you expect our food to come from? If it's safe to eat it needs correctly labeling and made ready to be consumed. (Where ever) If it's not fit for human consumption it is either for pet food, depending on those standards or it is destroyed. Simple as that. ColdAsChristmas
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