New Year party did disrupt many

First published in Letters by

IN reply to Sam Deighton (Well done to all, Letters, January 10), firstly, and most importantly, you were in the middle of a residential area on New Year’s Eve.

There are many residents living in Duncombe Place and the nearby streets, as well as some 60 paying ‘residents’ in the hotel that night, all of whom were there not only to enjoy the best hospitality we can offer but also two or more days sightseeing and contributing to the York economy.

Their time in York culminated in the traditional spectacle outside the Minster of real bell ringers ringing in the New Year.

They were not here to have a rock band belting out throughout most of their dinner, then obscuring the hotel’s in-house disco and ruining this hitherto magical midnight moment.

All of this was preceded by loud sound checks from early evening when buildings shook and conversation was virtually impossible. The council officer responsible had to field several complaint calls from those who live in the area.

If Sam is so enamoured of this event, perhaps he would like to entice the council to stage it in Rawcliffe Drive next year.

David Brooks, General Manager, Dean Court Hotel, York.

• Editor’s note: In a letter from The Pauper Kings printed on January 8, the band pointed out they stopped playing before midnight, as arranged.

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10:40am Thu 17 Jan 13

hustler says...

Were the proprietors / management of the hotel (and local residents) not forewarned that there was going to be a couple of hours of entertainment laid on in Duncombe Place ? Surely, with experiences of previous years (the gathering in the streets around the West End of the Minster has become a tradition since at least, the turn of the Millenium); the hotel could have informed their guests at the time of booking to expect an element of noise outside that evening. Even if there was no "laid-on" entertainment, there would still have been a huge crowd in attendance, having their own spontaneous fun.
Were the proprietors / management of the hotel (and local residents) not forewarned that there was going to be a couple of hours of entertainment laid on in Duncombe Place ? Surely, with experiences of previous years (the gathering in the streets around the West End of the Minster has become a tradition since at least, the turn of the Millenium); the hotel could have informed their guests at the time of booking to expect an element of noise outside that evening. Even if there was no "laid-on" entertainment, there would still have been a huge crowd in attendance, having their own spontaneous fun. hustler
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10:53am Thu 17 Jan 13

keepitshut says...

Mr Brookes.....i seem to recall you once saying in an interview that New Years Eve around the Minster was your favourite night of the year, you said you enjoyed the good atmosphere, the merriment and all the other "clap-trap" soundbites that you always refer to.
So what changed this last New Years Eve?
New Years Eve 2011 at the Minster was crap, masses of people just stood around listening to Eddie Vee warble a few tunes, your hotel was doing alright though, the disco for your guests was in full swing prior to midnight, still in full swing into the early hours. Very few left your venue to hear the bells at midnight.
Fast foward 12 months and the council thought it would be a good idea to stick a decent act on to culminate the 800 celebrations.
The band did stop playing before midnight, i heard the countdown and i was stood in Blake St, the band, dj etc finished at 12.30 and the councils road sweeping team swung into action at 1am, by 2.30am you couldnt tell an event had taken place, the only noise was coming from your hotel.
Wait till next year, no concert, no dj but still thousands of people around the Minster, like it or not, people will still gather at the Minster, you and your guests plus the residents of Petergate and Duncombe Place will have to just live with it, just like the last 20 odd years that i have been going there.
Or, move your hotel to Rawcliffe Drive and see how many guests you get during the year, 60 odd paying guests being disturbed against 10,000 council tax residents enjoying themselves....no contest!
Mr Brookes.....i seem to recall you once saying in an interview that New Years Eve around the Minster was your favourite night of the year, you said you enjoyed the good atmosphere, the merriment and all the other "clap-trap" soundbites that you always refer to. So what changed this last New Years Eve? New Years Eve 2011 at the Minster was crap, masses of people just stood around listening to Eddie Vee warble a few tunes, your hotel was doing alright though, the disco for your guests was in full swing prior to midnight, still in full swing into the early hours. Very few left your venue to hear the bells at midnight. Fast foward 12 months and the council thought it would be a good idea to stick a decent act on to culminate the 800 celebrations. The band did stop playing before midnight, i heard the countdown and i was stood in Blake St, the band, dj etc finished at 12.30 and the councils road sweeping team swung into action at 1am, by 2.30am you couldnt tell an event had taken place, the only noise was coming from your hotel. Wait till next year, no concert, no dj but still thousands of people around the Minster, like it or not, people will still gather at the Minster, you and your guests plus the residents of Petergate and Duncombe Place will have to just live with it, just like the last 20 odd years that i have been going there. Or, move your hotel to Rawcliffe Drive and see how many guests you get during the year, 60 odd paying guests being disturbed against 10,000 council tax residents enjoying themselves....no contest! keepitshut
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1:14pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Interesting that keepitshut says "no concert" next year.
I hope so!
Interesting that keepitshut says "no concert" next year. I hope so! Buzz Light-year
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1:17pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Buzz Light-year says...

As for the letter what a moaner.
New Year's eve is pretty much the one night a year where it's carte blanche to make merry in whatever way.
Get off the high horse.
As for the letter what a moaner. New Year's eve is pretty much the one night a year where it's carte blanche to make merry in whatever way. Get off the high horse. Buzz Light-year
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2:53pm Thu 17 Jan 13

keepitshut says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Interesting that keepitshut says "no concert" next year.
I hope so!
Hello Buzz, i am assuming there wont be a concert next year, i think this years concert was just to end the 800 celebrations on a "high" so to speak.
The problem the council have in providing entertainment of any form is the "shifting" of responsibilities.
For example, if nothing was organised then the Police and Ambulance Service supply officers to police the area, the NHS provide medical cover as it is classed as a "mass gathering"
If the council were to provide entertainment then they would have to pay for Police and medical teams as it would be classed as an "event"
Given the finances of the council it would be safe to say it will probably just go back to how it has always been!
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Interesting that keepitshut says "no concert" next year. I hope so![/p][/quote]Hello Buzz, i am assuming there wont be a concert next year, i think this years concert was just to end the 800 celebrations on a "high" so to speak. The problem the council have in providing entertainment of any form is the "shifting" of responsibilities. For example, if nothing was organised then the Police and Ambulance Service supply officers to police the area, the NHS provide medical cover as it is classed as a "mass gathering" If the council were to provide entertainment then they would have to pay for Police and medical teams as it would be classed as an "event" Given the finances of the council it would be safe to say it will probably just go back to how it has always been! keepitshut
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7:59am Fri 18 Jan 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Thank you keepitshut
Thank you keepitshut Buzz Light-year
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2:59pm Mon 28 Jan 13

tomjblue says...

I enjoyed the minster very much this year, the pauper kings were amazing and the DJ and drummer were very good! Everyone else around me was having a great time, comparing this year to the minster last year it wins HANDS DOWN.
I enjoyed the minster very much this year, the pauper kings were amazing and the DJ and drummer were very good! Everyone else around me was having a great time, comparing this year to the minster last year it wins HANDS DOWN. tomjblue
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12:34pm Tue 29 Jan 13

lutone says...

There is always noise at the Minster on NYE with hundreds of people gathering there, the difference in 2012 was that a fantastically talented band were entertaining the crowd for half an hour, and they were off stage well before midnight. People should get their facts right before blaming The Pauper Kings. Stuffy residents and church people 's views don't represent the majority of York citizens. Well done CYC for thinking to end the 800 celebrations in such a great way for the people of York (I don't work at CYC and I am not a Pauper King, just a York resident)
There is always noise at the Minster on NYE with hundreds of people gathering there, the difference in 2012 was that a fantastically talented band were entertaining the crowd for half an hour, and they were off stage well before midnight. People should get their facts right before blaming The Pauper Kings. Stuffy residents and church people 's views don't represent the majority of York citizens. Well done CYC for thinking to end the 800 celebrations in such a great way for the people of York (I don't work at CYC and I am not a Pauper King, just a York resident) lutone
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