Four ways to nowhere (From York Press)
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Four ways to nowhere
11:21am Wednesday 16th January 2013 in Letters By Reader's letter
I’D LIKE to congratulate City of York Council on its new ‘eco’ initiative sited at Water End.
I can’t find the relevant documents on the council website, but I’m guessing that the ‘4-Way-Control’ advertising refers to the scheme’s target of changing the attitudes and actions of commuters travelling in from the ring road in the following four ways:
1). Motorists: To show them definitive proof that walking or cycling are a quicker way of travelling into the city centre
2). Park&Ride users: To show them definitive proof that walking or cycling are a quicker, and less prone to price increases, way of travelling from the P&R into the city centre
3). Cyclists: To show them definitive proof that they were right all along
4). Pedestrians: To show them definitive proof that being ‘self-righteous’ is a virtue.
Sadly, I’ve noticed that there are still quite a few motorists and P&R users persisting with their determination to waste over an hour of their travelling time to traverse three miles.
Maybe ‘Phase 2’ could include ripping up the roads and replacing them all with miles of floral displays.
If that doesn’t get them out of their vehicles, nothing will… and the tourists will love it.
Geoff Devine, Foss Walk, Nether Poppleton, York.
Comments(8)
ColdAsChristmas
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1:30pm Wed 16 Jan 13
If those pot holes are not filled in by Spring you may just get your wish.
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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3:11pm Wed 16 Jan 13
pedalling paul wrote:That may be true on the odd occasion that you pass, but at least it is not now completely blocked off by a cycle lane that only you wanted.
Interestingly, I've noticed that the much vaunted LH filter is often empty at peak times, because access to it is regularly blocked by queues of right turning vehicles. And there are some idiots who deliberately drive over the ramp that brings cyclists from offroad to on road, when access to the LH filter is almost blocked........
Magicman!
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11:34pm Wed 16 Jan 13
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:Actually the same is true when I pass along that way as well, which is several times a week. The only reason queues are about 4 cars shorter is because the council tampered with the traffic light timings, and now queues are longer along the A19 as a result.... two proverbs/saying exist to explain the situation: "Robbing Peter to pay Paul", or "Swings and Roundabouts"
pedalling paul wrote:That may be true on the odd occasion that you pass, but at least it is not now completely blocked off by a cycle lane that only you wanted.
Interestingly, I've noticed that the much vaunted LH filter is often empty at peak times, because access to it is regularly blocked by queues of right turning vehicles. And there are some idiots who deliberately drive over the ramp that brings cyclists from offroad to on road, when access to the LH filter is almost blocked........
pedalling paul
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8:43am Thu 17 Jan 13
Mr Udigawa
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11:15am Thu 17 Jan 13
pedalling paul wrote:I can always tell when you're getting excitable Paul, your punctuation and grammar go to pot.
I distinctly recall reading that the green phase for exiting Water end inbound, was maximised as part of the post-commissioning tweaks to the Govt.funded cycle facilities. Doubtless when you queuing in a car, in the same level of peak congestion as previously existed, you will try to blame "the traffic" and "the Council" and "cyclists" yourself for the situation that you are helping to create. .
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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4:25pm Thu 17 Jan 13
pedalling paul wrote:So now you are admitting that the congestion WAS worse with the cycle lane in place.
I distinctly recall reading that the green phase for exiting Water end inbound, was maximised as part of the post-commissioning tweaks to the Govt.funded cycle facilities. Doubtless when you queuing in a car, in the same level of peak congestion as previously existed, you will try to blame "the traffic" and "the Council" and "cyclists" yourself for the situation that you are helping to create. .
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
What a hypocrite.
strangebuttrue?
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12:37am Sat 19 Jan 13
The Council again change the traffic light timings before they took out the cycle lane which brought some relief to the choking people of Salisbury Terrace who were being poisoned by the omissions from the day long queues along Water End created by this unbelievable stunt to try to make it faster by bike.
The result now is that traffic is flowing and there are no all day queues and at peak times seldom do the queues get beyond the top of Water Lane so less pollution and relief for all those people who live off Boroughbridge Road whose lives were blighted by rat running traffic and pollution. Mind you that relief will be short lived when the Council put in the next queue creation scheme down Boroughbridge Road itself.
pedalling paul says...
12:53pm Wed 16 Jan 13