The wrong speed

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THE Letters page seems to regularly attract from both ‘for’ and ‘against’ 20mph zones. I find this to be no more than a theoretical debate.

In practice, while walking the 20mph Bishopthorpe Road section, I rarely see any vehicle moving at this speed. I walk this road eight times a week and find almost no one observing the rules.

While driving in South Bank 20mph zones I find I am regularly overtaken or have the ‘pleasure’ of vehicles behind weaving about the road space eager to find a way to get past. Nobody I think enjoys this sort of behaviour.

Surely it is safer to have vehicles travelling at 30mph than overtaking and weaving about.

From a business point of view, how does the council justify spending limited resources on a project which does not deliver its intended product?

An independent investigation should be funded to produce statistics on what is actually happening in 20mph zones and if, as I suspect, the speed limits are being ignored then no further money should be invested in this type of voluntary traffic control.

P Jackson, Montague Street, York.

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12:05pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Sillybillies says...

In practice, while walking the 20mph Bishopthorpe Road section, I rarely see any vehicle moving at this speed. I walk this road eight times a week and find almost no one observing the rules.

You can't judge the speed of vehicles as a pedestrian without the assistance of a radar gun.
[quote]In practice, while walking the 20mph Bishopthorpe Road section, I rarely see any vehicle moving at this speed. I walk this road eight times a week and find almost no one observing the rules.[/quote] You can't judge the speed of vehicles as a pedestrian without the assistance of a radar gun. Sillybillies
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6:14pm Thu 3 Jan 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

A new government scheme announced today is to spend money reducing the number of road signs.
No, you can't make this stuff up can you!
A new government scheme announced today is to spend money reducing the number of road signs. No, you can't make this stuff up can you! ColdAsChristmas
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6:51pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Mulgrave says...

I think an independent study should have been carried out before implementing 20mph on any through route, and certainly now it is clear that it is not being observed by motorists.

The consultation, which was biased in favour of the scheme, does not absolve the Council from its duty of care in considering the negative impact from a well intentioned but flawed idea in its present form.
I think an independent study should have been carried out before implementing 20mph on any through route, and certainly now it is clear that it is not being observed by motorists. The consultation, which was biased in favour of the scheme, does not absolve the Council from its duty of care in considering the negative impact from a well intentioned but flawed idea in its present form. Mulgrave
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11:25pm Thu 3 Jan 13

skepticreader says...

Sillybillies wrote:
In practice, while walking the 20mph Bishopthorpe Road section, I rarely see any vehicle moving at this speed. I walk this road eight times a week and find almost no one observing the rules.

You can't judge the speed of vehicles as a pedestrian without the assistance of a radar gun.
Sillybillies, why do you need a radar gun to judge the speed of a car? You need a gun to record the speed, but its easy to judge the speed to within 5pmh with very little practice.
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote]In practice, while walking the 20mph Bishopthorpe Road section, I rarely see any vehicle moving at this speed. I walk this road eight times a week and find almost no one observing the rules.[/quote] You can't judge the speed of vehicles as a pedestrian without the assistance of a radar gun.[/p][/quote]Sillybillies, why do you need a radar gun to judge the speed of a car? You need a gun to record the speed, but its easy to judge the speed to within 5pmh with very little practice. skepticreader
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3:11pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Sillybillies says...

Sillybillies, why do you need a radar gun to judge the speed of a car? You need a gun to record the speed, but its easy to judge the speed to within 5pmh with very little practice.

I repeat, and add, you cannot judge the speed of vehicles from the pavement full stop, never mind within 5 mph with very little practice. Any argument based on the false premise that you can is nonsense.
[quote]Sillybillies, why do you need a radar gun to judge the speed of a car? You need a gun to record the speed, but its easy to judge the speed to within 5pmh with very little practice.[/quote] I repeat, and add, you cannot judge the speed of vehicles from the pavement full stop, never mind within 5 mph with very little practice. Any argument based on the false premise that you can is nonsense. Sillybillies
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3:18pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Sillybillies says...

Calm down dear, calm down!
Calm down dear, calm down! Sillybillies
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2:17pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Sillybillies says...

My last post when on the wrong story, blast!
My last post when on the wrong story, blast! Sillybillies
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