Hunt loopholes (From York Press)

"The Hunting Act was passed with overwhelming public support"

I thought it was minorities who get all the rights in todays Britain,you know with gays wanting to marry,muslims getting priorities for council houses,so on.So surely these hunts people should be able to carry on with there minority sport

I would be far more impressed with the RSPCA if they tackled the cruel method of slaughter called Halal.

I would be even more impressed if our government gave the matter more than a passing glimpse.

But we dont want to upset any voters do we, especially the ones who brought this cruel method to our shores.

Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

Yes Capt.......it's an old ploy, if you haven't got an answer, pick up on spelling and grammar thus making it seem that the person is so stupid their opinion is worthless.
Trolls is wot they is........ trolls

capt spaulding wrote:

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

And your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate, consisted of bringing up halal slaughter.

Please explain the relevance of halal slaughter to the loopholes in the hunting ban. Oh and could you also please explain why people who bring up cruel religious slaughter never mention kosher.Is it because jews are predominantly white whilst muslims are predominantly dark skinned?

Back to the subject in point.

I say bring on the vote to repeal the ban, for the simple reason that parliament will not only reconfirm the law but will actually amend the law to close the loopholes.

My suggestions would be, a ban on any animal based scents being used on the drag. Hounds will happily chase aniseed.

A large cut in the number of hounds allowed, a pack in single figures will suffice.

A ban on flushing to guns, or birds of prey

And finally a closing of the accidental killing loophole.

twotonethomas wrote:

capt spaulding wrote:

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

And your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate, consisted of bringing up halal slaughter.

Please explain the relevance of halal slaughter to the loopholes in the hunting ban. Oh and could you also please explain why people who bring up cruel religious slaughter never mention kosher.Is it because jews are predominantly white whilst muslims are predominantly dark skinned?

Jews don't try to force the majority to eat religiously slaughtered animals,and you should be very careful stereotyping muslims,they don't like it

jorvik wrote:

twotonethomas wrote:

capt spaulding wrote:

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

And your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate, consisted of bringing up halal slaughter.

Please explain the relevance of halal slaughter to the loopholes in the hunting ban. Oh and could you also please explain why people who bring up cruel religious slaughter never mention kosher.Is it because jews are predominantly white whilst muslims are predominantly dark skinned?

Jews don't try to force the majority to eat religiously slaughtered animals,and you should be very careful stereotyping muslims,they don't like it

How did I stereotype anyone?

And how do muslims force anyone to eat religiously slaughtered animals? Or are you just stereotyping?

twotonethomas wrote:

capt spaulding wrote:

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

And your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate, consisted of bringing up halal slaughter.

Please explain the relevance of halal slaughter to the loopholes in the hunting ban. Oh and could you also please explain why people who bring up cruel religious slaughter never mention kosher.Is it because jews are predominantly white whilst muslims are predominantly dark skinned?

My point in bringing in the Halal cruel slaughter method was merely to emphasise the crass hypocrisy of the situation and to your point i say Yes it should apply to Kosher.

Thanks for your reasoned reply capt spaulding.

Whilst I want to stick to the subject of loopholes in the hunting act, I must ask you this.

Do you believe that the regular flouting of the law on humane slaughter should be stopped and the law enforced (religious slaughter only for those whom practice their traditional lifestyle), should the law be tightened even more (perhaps a total ban), or should the law be repealed (as it's not worth the police time)?

"i" should be with a capital 'I'; trolls is wot they is.....

twotonethomas wrote:
Thanks for your reasoned reply capt spaulding.

Whilst I want to stick to the subject of loopholes in the hunting act, I must ask you this.

Do you believe that the regular flouting of the law on humane slaughter should be stopped and the law enforced (religious slaughter only for those whom practice their traditional lifestyle), should the law be tightened even more (perhaps a total ban), or should the law be repealed (as it's not worth the police time)?

We shouldnt have to marginalise, its just plain wrong in any language or creed or religion to be cruel to any animals.

I couldn't agree more capt spaulding, unfortunately those that are cruel to animals, hunters, gamekeepers, vivisectors, farmers or even muslims are the last to admit that what they do is cruel. And are usually the first to tell you to campaign against someone else's cruelty.

Not since I was at school has anyone forced me or anyone I know to eat any kind of food, Halal Kosher or otherwise.

Can we add supermarket agribusiness meat factories to the cruel list?

Halal and Kosher may be cruel but at least they eat the outcome; the unspeakable ...................

"anyone who has accustomed himself to regard the life of any living creature as worthless is in danger of arriving also at the idea of worthless human lives"


albert schweitzer.


says it all really.

twotonethomas wrote:

capt spaulding wrote:

Red Star wrote:
Like the minority sport of those who cannot spell 'their'?

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate!.
I look forward to your next comment with great enthusiasm.
Hopefully it will have more than ten words and actually contribute something.

And your valuable contribution to the hunt loophole debate, consisted of bringing up halal slaughter.

Please explain the relevance of halal slaughter to the loopholes in the hunting ban. Oh and could you also please explain why people who bring up cruel religious slaughter never mention kosher.Is it because jews are predominantly white whilst muslims are predominantly dark skinned?

Could be a good point TTT.

However, the answer is simple to Halal and Kosher. When those laws were given, to both the nation of Israel and carried on by Ishmael, Abrahams son by Hagar who became father to the non jewish nations about, there wasn't a cleaner way of killing an animal other than by a razor sharp knife and bleeding the beast.
Now of course, we still slit the throats of beasts and bleed them, but they are stunned first, or they are supposed to be, because I have heard tales to the contrary.
So Halal and Kosher are simply religios tradition and maybe should change as they meat is still hung and bled