Riverside revamp designs ‘appalling’

THE designs for the revamp of the area near the Guildhall are appalling (The Press, November 20).

If they are the best five from 36, then heaven help us all – they would look out of place in Milton Keynes.

I can’t believe the council allowed the one on the front of The Press to get past the shredder.

Have they and the designers forgotten we are in an 800-year-old city?

It’s a shame none of the illustrations had Lendal Bridge for comparison.

I fear some of the architects have forgotten it exists.

We have lost a lot of old buildings since the 1960s to modern designs and it doesn’t do anything to enhance the city, Stonebow and part of Goodramgate, to name but two.

Dave Matthewman, Green Lane, Acomb, York.

 

• THANK YOU for the article on Tuesday about the shortlist for the proposed redevelopment of the River Ouse frontage at Guildhall.

The only good thing about the one shown of the front of the newspaper is the pontoons, which are badly needed in the centre of York.

However, they should be available for a limited time each day to all visiting boats to York and not exclusively for Yorkboat or for a river taxi or bus service, whoever the provider.

The only designs worth considering are those shown on page three next to the photograph of Coun Julie Gunnell.

The squashed up ‘‘beach huts’’ on stilts, shown on the front page, are surely not a serious contender.

I would rather have Tracy Emin’s famous beach hut, which she sold to an art museum in New York for many thousands of dollars.

Let us have a sensible debate as to the future use of the historic Guildhall.

Surely some ideas as to its use should be considered before any ideas as to a design?

Tony Martin, Secretary, North Riding Branch, Inland Waterways Association, Clarence Street, York.

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9:55am Thu 22 Nov 12

inmandres says...

It's about time that there were plans to brighten up that part of the riverside. Personally I think that the plaza idea looks pretty good. (Just thought I'd support it before the usual doom-mongers and naysayers have their say)
Not sure how Paul Hepworth feels about there being no bike racks or how Mike Usherwood will react to there being no blue badge parking though, but no doubt we'll find out soon.
It's about time that there were plans to brighten up that part of the riverside. Personally I think that the plaza idea looks pretty good. (Just thought I'd support it before the usual doom-mongers and naysayers have their say) Not sure how Paul Hepworth feels about there being no bike racks or how Mike Usherwood will react to there being no blue badge parking though, but no doubt we'll find out soon. inmandres

10:07am Thu 22 Nov 12

far2bizzy says...

I have to agree totally with Mr. Mattewman.

There no longer seems to be any style to buildings – simply a “look how clever we can be with steel, concrete, glass and wood” approach which results in structures more akin to modern sculptures than real buildings. Constructions that cannot stand the test of time; that in a few years come to be seen for what they are – architectural ego-trips.

What is needed in this space is not a brash bully of a building but a demure, modest little number – something that points to the Guildhall and says “Don’t look at me, look at that”
I have to agree totally with Mr. Mattewman. There no longer seems to be any style to buildings – simply a “look how clever we can be with steel, concrete, glass and wood” approach which results in structures more akin to modern sculptures than real buildings. Constructions that cannot stand the test of time; that in a few years come to be seen for what they are – architectural ego-trips. What is needed in this space is not a brash bully of a building but a demure, modest little number – something that points to the Guildhall and says “Don’t look at me, look at that” far2bizzy

11:30am Thu 22 Nov 12

www.yorkstories.co.uk says...

"What is needed in this space is not a brash bully of a building but a demure, modest little number – something that points to the Guildhall and says 'Don’t look at me, look at that'"

Well put, far2bizzy.

I like it just as it is, but maybe I'm in the minority.
"What is needed in this space is not a brash bully of a building but a demure, modest little number – something that points to the Guildhall and says 'Don’t look at me, look at that'" Well put, far2bizzy. I like it just as it is, but maybe I'm in the minority. www.yorkstories.co.uk

12:32pm Thu 22 Nov 12

bolero says...

inmandres wrote:
It's about time that there were plans to brighten up that part of the riverside. Personally I think that the plaza idea looks pretty good. (Just thought I'd support it before the usual doom-mongers and naysayers have their say) Not sure how Paul Hepworth feels about there being no bike racks or how Mike Usherwood will react to there being no blue badge parking though, but no doubt we'll find out soon.
Quite agree with you. Yes we live in a 800year old city as do many other citizens throughout the land. However, things have to move on, otherwise we'd still be emptying our chamber pots out of the windows. Watch out Paul, hope you've got your crash helmet on, Mike Usherwood's gunning for you.
[quote][p][bold]inmandres[/bold] wrote: It's about time that there were plans to brighten up that part of the riverside. Personally I think that the plaza idea looks pretty good. (Just thought I'd support it before the usual doom-mongers and naysayers have their say) Not sure how Paul Hepworth feels about there being no bike racks or how Mike Usherwood will react to there being no blue badge parking though, but no doubt we'll find out soon.[/p][/quote]Quite agree with you. Yes we live in a 800year old city as do many other citizens throughout the land. However, things have to move on, otherwise we'd still be emptying our chamber pots out of the windows. Watch out Paul, hope you've got your crash helmet on, Mike Usherwood's gunning for you. bolero

4:42pm Thu 22 Nov 12

anistasia says...

I have put posts on this issue but not seen here I put nothing untrue my points are what about flooding and if I remember right the big insurance building was made of simular type of stone to match in with guildhall and the bar walls so this modern building plan takes the character away from from the guildhall it's an eyesore what does it match in with ? What's happening about Piccadilly area of York.York's known for its history why blight it with modern buildings what next housing estate outside the Minster.
I have put posts on this issue but not seen here I put nothing untrue my points are what about flooding and if I remember right the big insurance building was made of simular type of stone to match in with guildhall and the bar walls so this modern building plan takes the character away from from the guildhall it's an eyesore what does it match in with ? What's happening about Piccadilly area of York.York's known for its history why blight it with modern buildings what next housing estate outside the Minster. anistasia

7:20am Fri 23 Nov 12

roobarb85 says...

Don't forget that what we now perceive as mellow and graceful structures were the shocking new architecture of the day.
I'm sure people who lived in the mean, dull wooden hovels that lined the river at the time the Guildhall was built would have had something bad to say about the silly new pointy arches, the stupid use of all that glass and the garishly bright stone.
Just as they didn't back then, we don't want historical pastiche, and as it's an important, showpiece site, we don't want something modest.
The trick is of course to find something that's modern and of quality rather than just modern for its own sake.
Difficult to think of examples locally - but how about the Hepworth in Wakefield and the McAlpine Stadium (albeit in a different context) in Huddersfield. Whatever, the chance to create a riverside walkway should not be missed.
Don't forget that what we now perceive as mellow and graceful structures were the shocking new architecture of the day. I'm sure people who lived in the mean, dull wooden hovels that lined the river at the time the Guildhall was built would have had something bad to say about the silly new pointy arches, the stupid use of all that glass and the garishly bright stone. Just as they didn't back then, we don't want historical pastiche, and as it's an important, showpiece site, we don't want something modest. The trick is of course to find something that's modern and of quality rather than just modern for its own sake. Difficult to think of examples locally - but how about the Hepworth in Wakefield and the McAlpine Stadium (albeit in a different context) in Huddersfield. Whatever, the chance to create a riverside walkway should not be missed. roobarb85

5:14pm Fri 23 Nov 12

PinzaC55 says...

Look on the bright side - the winner will get, what is it 5 grand to get their New Year off to a bright start , and some council officials will have a nice little job to do confident in the expectation that no results will be needed and that nothing will be done.

In fact, as Parkinson's Law states "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion."

It'll keep them busy till they move into their new palace in March.
Look on the bright side - the winner will get, what is it 5 grand to get their New Year off to a bright start , and some council officials will have a nice little job to do confident in the expectation that no results will be needed and that nothing will be done. In fact, as Parkinson's Law states "Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion." It'll keep them busy till they move into their new palace in March. PinzaC55

5:24pm Fri 23 Nov 12

PinzaC55 says...

BTW the letter writer said "I can’t believe the council allowed the one on the front of The Press to get past the shredder."

Has he forgotten the Hungate council HQ and the Hiscox building? I think they do it deliberately to wind us up.
BTW the letter writer said "I can’t believe the council allowed the one on the front of The Press to get past the shredder." Has he forgotten the Hungate council HQ and the Hiscox building? I think they do it deliberately to wind us up. PinzaC55

4:37am Sat 24 Nov 12

Magicman! says...

Oh here we go.... somebody designs some new buildings and all the moaners come out of the woodwork saying "it'll spoint the character of this ancient city" blahdeblahdeblah.... I say to these people the following:

Go to Manchester and stand in Exchange Square, and then take in a full 360 degree panoramic view of the surroundings. You will find an old tudor-look pub with exposed beams, an industrial-revolutio
n corn exchange, both next to each other but facing modern age shops that have only been built after the IRA bomb clearup was complete. That setup in Manchester works - and it could work in York too if done properly.
Oh here we go.... somebody designs some new buildings and all the moaners come out of the woodwork saying "it'll spoint the character of this ancient city" blahdeblahdeblah.... I say to these people the following: Go to Manchester and stand in Exchange Square, and then take in a full 360 degree panoramic view of the surroundings. You will find an old tudor-look pub with exposed beams, an industrial-revolutio n corn exchange, both next to each other but facing modern age shops that have only been built after the IRA bomb clearup was complete. That setup in Manchester works - and it could work in York too if done properly. Magicman!

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