Before and after

IT SAYS much about Coun Sonja Crisp and the Labour Cabinet that she left it to an officer to take the flak over Illuminating York (The Press, November 10).

On October 31, she was boasting the event would be “truly spectacular” with the Museum Gardens “transformed into a magical and surreal experience”.

However, after visitors described the show as “puerile and boring”, Sonja Crisp was nowhere to be seen in the council’s belated response.

A similar volte-face occurred with the “utter fiasco” of the Gunpowder Plod fireworks event on the Knavesmire. On November 3, James Alexander tweeted: “Labour promised to bring fireworks back to York. This year Sonja Crisp secured gunpowderplod.”

As criticism grew, Sonja Crisp first tried denial, claiming she “hadn’t heard the booing”, then by November 6 with The Press reporting “thousands of unhappy people”, she was tweeting “it was not a council organised event”.

Unfortunately, it is typical of this Labour Cabinet that they’re quick to claim credit for good news, but send out an officer or deny responsibility for bad news.

Coun Nigel Ayre, Liberal Democrat spokesperson for leisure and culture.

 

• IT WAS interesting to note Coun Sonja Crisp’s comments following Coun George Barton’s description of the two recent events held in the city, namely Illuminating York and the Gunpowder Plod (The Press, November 12).

She accuses Coun Barton of being out of touch with the thousands of people who want such events.

I think it is Coun Crisp who is out of touch with the public mood and certainly out of touch with many disappointed people who were disgusted at the very poor quality and organisation of such events. One wonders where the “thousands” of people expressed their support.

Only a matter weeks ago, Coun Crisp and her leader proudly trumpeted the fact that they had been successful in bringing two first-class events to York.

They seemed to bask in this coup, but now wish to disassociate themselves from the events and attack those who criticise.

There is no doubt that Coun George Barton was absolutely correct in his comments.

Coun John C Galvin, Conservative, Bishopthorpe ward.

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1:09pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Buzz Light-year says...

Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free.

Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt.

Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.
Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid. Buzz Light-year
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1:18pm Thu 15 Nov 12

atorycouncil2014 says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free.

Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt.

Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.
really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here?

Come on Press Censorship?
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.[/p][/quote]really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here? Come on Press Censorship? atorycouncil2014
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2:25pm Thu 15 Nov 12

jorvik says...

I believe she tweeted she was there as a resident and not representing the council,I wonder if she paid for her tickets ???????
I believe she tweeted she was there as a resident and not representing the council,I wonder if she paid for her tickets ??????? jorvik
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3:18pm Thu 15 Nov 12

atorycouncil2014 says...

jorvik wrote:
I believe she tweeted she was there as a resident and not representing the council,I wonder if she paid for her tickets ???????
I very much doubt it!
[quote][p][bold]jorvik[/bold] wrote: I believe she tweeted she was there as a resident and not representing the council,I wonder if she paid for her tickets ???????[/p][/quote]I very much doubt it! atorycouncil2014
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3:30pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Buzz Light-year says...

atorycouncil2014 wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote: Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.
really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here? Come on Press Censorship?
Not sure about censorship, it is in the print version.

"Coun Crisp said the council waived the fee to ensure the event was "established and viable this year""
[quote][p][bold]atorycouncil2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.[/p][/quote]really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here? Come on Press Censorship?[/p][/quote]Not sure about censorship, it is in the print version. "Coun Crisp said the council waived the fee to ensure the event was "established and viable this year"" Buzz Light-year
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4:13pm Thu 15 Nov 12

atorycouncil2014 says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
atorycouncil2014 wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote: Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.
really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here? Come on Press Censorship?
Not sure about censorship, it is in the print version.

"Coun Crisp said the council waived the fee to ensure the event was "established and viable this year""
Circulation of site much higher than print version. Was it in todays? Might have to buy the paper to find the truth!

If 10,000 people arent viable without free rent then theyre in trouble!

I suppose the point is if they've provided OUR land free of charge they should have had some input in making sure the people using it were fit and proper and the plans they had would work.

Why wasnt the decision to give them the land free taken in public so we could have pointed out the pitfalls before the catastrophe occured
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]atorycouncil2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Interesting that these letters appear yet The Press has chosen not to publish online a story they ran in the print version regarding the council letting Rat Race use the site rent free. Yep, that's right. Rent free. Rat Race got the gig for nowt. Before anyone shelled out their £12 for the plodshambles, we had all already paid.[/p][/quote]really ?!?!? Wheres that story come from and why isnt it on here? Come on Press Censorship?[/p][/quote]Not sure about censorship, it is in the print version. "Coun Crisp said the council waived the fee to ensure the event was "established and viable this year""[/p][/quote]Circulation of site much higher than print version. Was it in todays? Might have to buy the paper to find the truth! If 10,000 people arent viable without free rent then theyre in trouble! I suppose the point is if they've provided OUR land free of charge they should have had some input in making sure the people using it were fit and proper and the plans they had would work. Why wasnt the decision to give them the land free taken in public so we could have pointed out the pitfalls before the catastrophe occured atorycouncil2014
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1:08pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Buzz Light-year says...

Well I waited a day in case The Press published the story online today.

No they didn't.
I think atorycouncil is right.
Deliberately not publishing online where the circulation is higher and where comment is available.

It's disappointing to see standards like this.

I'm sure people who read the print story will write in and voice their opinion.
Well I waited a day in case The Press published the story online today. No they didn't. I think atorycouncil is right. Deliberately not publishing online where the circulation is higher and where comment is available. It's disappointing to see standards like this. I'm sure people who read the print story will write in and voice their opinion. Buzz Light-year
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1:22pm Fri 16 Nov 12

bolero says...

I think York Council did very well so far as these events are concerned. They lived well up to their usual standards of ineptitude and mishandling and did everything according to the way that the people have now come to expect of them. Useless money wasters.
I think York Council did very well so far as these events are concerned. They lived well up to their usual standards of ineptitude and mishandling and did everything according to the way that the people have now come to expect of them. Useless money wasters. bolero
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7:41pm Mon 19 Nov 12

CaroleBaines says...

These 2 have history

http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/9884602.
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pology_over_Wembley_
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These 2 have history http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/9884602. Lib_Dem_councillor_a pology_over_Wembley_ incident/ CaroleBaines
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