Give aid to us (From York Press)

"Well said"

While you have political leaders totally out of touch, nothing surprises me. Don't forget £18.3 Billion a year on alleged global warming. Yes this is related before some uninformed commentator jumps on me. Much of our overseas aid goes to places such as Bangladesh to help save them from Catastrophic Climate Change, at least that is what it is bagged as. I see the Maldives have not sunk any incidentally!

We've not been 'bled dry by overseas aid'. The current target is to give 0.7% of national income. Which means until that target is reached, we'll have always given less.

UK living standards are well above those of developing nations. Millions of people die each year from diseases that can be easily prevented with cheap medicine. People don't choose where they are born. There is no moral justification for ignoring suffering just because it occurs in other countries.

Yes, we have problems in this country, but most of them are related to the distribution of wealth, rather than the total amount of wealth.

Matt_S wrote:
We've not been 'bled dry by overseas aid'. The current target is to give 0.7% of national income. Which means until that target is reached, we'll have always given less.

UK living standards are well above those of developing nations. Millions of people die each year from diseases that can be easily prevented with cheap medicine. People don't choose where they are born. There is no moral justification for ignoring suffering just because it occurs in other countries.

Yes, we have problems in this country, but most of them are related to the distribution of wealth, rather than the total amount of wealth.

Who brainwashed you into coming up with this rubbish.

CHISSY1 wrote:

Matt_S wrote:
We've not been 'bled dry by overseas aid'. The current target is to give 0.7% of national income. Which means until that target is reached, we'll have always given less.

UK living standards are well above those of developing nations. Millions of people die each year from diseases that can be easily prevented with cheap medicine. People don't choose where they are born. There is no moral justification for ignoring suffering just because it occurs in other countries.

Yes, we have problems in this country, but most of them are related to the distribution of wealth, rather than the total amount of wealth.

Who brainwashed you into coming up with this rubbish.

Care to address anything I said?

Matt_S wrote:

CHISSY1 wrote:

Matt_S wrote:
We've not been 'bled dry by overseas aid'. The current target is to give 0.7% of national income. Which means until that target is reached, we'll have always given less.

UK living standards are well above those of developing nations. Millions of people die each year from diseases that can be easily prevented with cheap medicine. People don't choose where they are born. There is no moral justification for ignoring suffering just because it occurs in other countries.

Yes, we have problems in this country, but most of them are related to the distribution of wealth, rather than the total amount of wealth.

Who brainwashed you into coming up with this rubbish.

Care to address anything I said?

"Yes,just about everything".

You don't get it do you?

The sick and disabled are only spongers, so they cannot be bribed to one day make our upper class/tory/businessm
en rich...............b
ut if we bribe/ingratiate countries like India with money they don't need, they might just through some of their new found wealth into the hands of those here who already have an abundance...........
.sorry, was that me being cynical?

You don't get it do you?

The sick and disabled are only spongers, so they cannot be bribed to one day make our upper class/tory/businessm
en rich...............b
ut if we bribe/ingratiate countries like India with money they don't need, they might just through some of their new found wealth into the hands of those here who already have an abundance...........
.sorry, was that me being cynical?

CHISSY1 wrote:

Matt_S wrote:

CHISSY1 wrote:

Matt_S wrote: We've not been 'bled dry by overseas aid'. The current target is to give 0.7% of national income. Which means until that target is reached, we'll have always given less. UK living standards are well above those of developing nations. Millions of people die each year from diseases that can be easily prevented with cheap medicine. People don't choose where they are born. There is no moral justification for ignoring suffering just because it occurs in other countries. Yes, we have problems in this country, but most of them are related to the distribution of wealth, rather than the total amount of wealth.

Who brainwashed you into coming up with this rubbish.

Care to address anything I said?

"Yes,just about everything".

We're waiting...

Fascinating fact; if you Google "what is the UK national debt" it works out at roughly £175, 000 PER PERSON.

" We have been bled dry by overseas aid – enough is enough. "

To agree with this statement is an admission of something lacking both in the head and in the heart.

Some nations will always be poor, despite a fortune being pumped into them. Corruption, Despot leadership, Civil war and an attitude never to live in peace with their neighbours.
If what Matt is saying is what I think he is saying then in order to try and achieve equality with more developed states then the MDS will never stop paying.
The UK pays £120 Million a day just servicing the National debt, that is without paying any of it off.
Having a ministry just looking where they can give money away is just plain barmy.
When Pakistan had its floods, mostly through development of flood plains there was a big TV appeal for donations. When New Zealand was struck by a massive Earthquake there was no such appeal.
What is the difference?
I'll tell you what: Pakistan chooses to put money into Nuclear arms, New Zealand does not.

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Some nations will always be poor, despite a fortune being pumped into them. Corruption, Despot leadership, Civil war and an attitude never to live in peace with their neighbours.
If what Matt is saying is what I think he is saying then in order to try and achieve equality with more developed states then the MDS will never stop paying.
The UK pays £120 Million a day just servicing the National debt, that is without paying any of it off.
Having a ministry just looking where they can give money away is just plain barmy.
When Pakistan had its floods, mostly through development of flood plains there was a big TV appeal for donations. When New Zealand was struck by a massive Earthquake there was no such appeal.
What is the difference?
I'll tell you what: Pakistan chooses to put money into Nuclear arms, New Zealand does not.

Why do you assume there must always be poverty? We've managed to massively reduce it the developed world, and many developing nations are becoming wealthier. Things like corruption and despotic leaders are certainly problems in many countries, but clearly it is possible to support development even in such countries by focusing projects that don't significantly involve government officials.

Another difference between New Zealand and Pakistan is that New Zealand is already reasonably well-off. It also doesn't have any regional enemies it perceives to be threatening it. (not that I advocate spending on nuclear weapons. But hey, the UK spends £30bn+ each year on its military, plus tens of billions extra replacing Trident...)

Charity Begins At Home.