City council to put electric car through its paces (From York Press)
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City of York Council to put electric car through its paces
10:00am Wednesday 18th January 2012 in Eco info
A Nissan LEAF
AN ELECTRIC car is to be used by City of York Council on a three-month trial as the authority looks to reduce emissions and cut travel costs.
The Nissan LEAF has been lent to the council by its manufacturer free of charge, and its effectiveness will be analysed at the end of the pilot scheme to see which vehicles could be used by officers.
“Electric cars are a great way for us to contribute to improving our environment, as they have zero emissions and save substantial amounts of money on fuel bills,” said Coun Dafydd Williams, cabinet member for communities and neighbourhood services.
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PKH
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11:57am Wed 18 Jan 12
meme
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1:00pm Wed 18 Jan 12
sheps lad
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3:58pm Wed 18 Jan 12
LibDem
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4:37pm Wed 18 Jan 12
Range was an issue then and may still be with the Leaf.
The Vauxhall Ampera might be a safer bet (it has a supplementary engine which cuts in if the battery runs flat) but still does 235 mpg.
Pete the Brickie
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4:57pm Wed 18 Jan 12
ISeeEverything wrote:Spot on, at least they're getting it free to trial.
How can electric cars cut costs when they cost over £20,000 to buy, after a £5,000 subsidy, rather than perhaps just £6,000 or £7,000 for something of similar size? And they don't have zero emissions, they have zero emissions at source. Quite a big difference, unless you're an environmentalist.
pw8757
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5:26pm Wed 18 Jan 12
(Pete The Brickie may be able to help here, as he will know a thing or two about buildings)
Then - manage staff journeys to save fuel and get them to drive economically.
Pedalling Paul can give advice on the cost savings associated with using pedal cycles...
When you have gained all the cash and environmental savings from these simple steps - and only when - think about spending a fortune on a dubious vehicle that can't get very far and probably won't be used by your staff, go back to the evaluation of this "Free Trial" (which is probably a sales punt by the manufacturers because not many are being sold) and make a decision.
In the meantime - look at some of the common sense that PTB and PP place in these columns for free and for all to see!
Viper_7
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5:47pm Wed 18 Jan 12
Pete the Brickie wrote:Not to mention in 3ish years the batteries will require replacing, adding a further 1-2k each time.
ISeeEverything wrote:Spot on, at least they're getting it free to trial.
How can electric cars cut costs when they cost over £20,000 to buy, after a £5,000 subsidy, rather than perhaps just £6,000 or £7,000 for something of similar size? And they don't have zero emissions, they have zero emissions at source. Quite a big difference, unless you're an environmentalist.
The Leafs have seen very poor sales, this is a good advertising venture for Nissan for people to see their "Leaf" on the road.
Most manufacturers are concentrating on more fuel efficient vehicles, rather than electric. For most, the infrastructure needs to be in place for charging points (preferably by induction, embedded in car parking spaces etc) until that's in place they are not practical, and certainly not Zero emission!
pedalling paul
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6:23pm Wed 18 Jan 12
sheps lad wrote:Might end the specious arguments for "keeping traffic moving to avoid pollution."
The cable will present another obstacle for PP to negotiate!
lezyork1966
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7:14pm Wed 18 Jan 12
Anyone who wants real world facts about electric vehicles needs to get accurate info from endless-sphere and EVTV on youtube.
Two old codgers on evtv convert cars to electric for less than the 'big boys' and get better vehicles with better range! the videos are up there to see, its not new age hippy worship its just the car industry is hand in glove with big oil. the only real car company doing it right is tesla
Steve,
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7:15pm Wed 18 Jan 12
unless of course power plants have stopped producing emissoins overnight?
PP doesn't need anyone encouraging him to spout about cycles, I have owned a 125cc 2stroke motorcycle for 6 years now, and I ride it proudly, want to cut down emissions? What about China, and America using lecky there's no tomorrow? 1 small city in the middle of England (about the smallest independent country in existance) isn't going to change the global climate issue, and I dont believe it anyway.
Anyone seen any smog, recently?
As for the cars, these newly made cars are brilliant, until you ask about their production costs considering how many were wasted in thew scrappage scheme, and still sat laying around in unused airfields.
Brilliant.
Steve,
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7:17pm Wed 18 Jan 12
AnotherPointofView
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10:44pm Wed 18 Jan 12
Steve, wrote:... or "grammar".
...excuse my poor spelling and grammer in that post. oopsy..
Steve,
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11:20pm Wed 18 Jan 12
Pete the Brickie
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7:02am Thu 19 Jan 12
Steve, wrote:Don't worry I spelt it the same the other week, but I really did think it had an e in it. :)
lol, I was just testing somebody was infact there to notice... ;) thanks.
Amoco Caditz
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9:11am Thu 19 Jan 12
at least 40% of the calorific value of the fuel is converted into useable power. Petrol engines at best 35%.
Coupled with cats and particulate filters very low emmissions, with a good range and life expectency.
Steve,
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12:09pm Thu 19 Jan 12
Amoco Caditz wrote:Quite, my diesel 106 is a 1996 and get's an average of 50mpg round town and it's as clean as a whistle. It's actually probably better off than half the new cars in showrooms today.
there is nothing more effiecent than a modern clean burning diesel engine!
at least 40% of the calorific value of the fuel is converted into useable power. Petrol engines at best 35%.
Coupled with cats and particulate filters very low emmissions, with a good range and life expectency.
@ PTB, logically it should have an E in it, all's good tho.
C3PO=PCSO
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4:21pm Thu 19 Jan 12
Steve,
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8:26pm Thu 19 Jan 12
C3PO=PCSO wrote:I've been saying for a time now that electric vehicles on the whole are a tricky affair in noise terms, PP must have weekly incidents with motorists not noticing him, so I can't imagine riding an electric motorbike through town, bikers aren't seen enough as it is - I'm gratefully my bike has an engine that can be heard.
I think these are a sfety hazard as they make so little noise, old people don't hear them coming. So, dial 101 and select option 3 if they cause an inconvenience
ISeeEverything says...
11:43am Wed 18 Jan 12