Come and enjoy my ‘smoking’ pub

Richard Catton Richard Catton

LAST year I incurred the wrath of anti-smoking campaigners when I wrote about what I perceived to be the undemocratic nature of the national smoking ban.

Now, five years since the ban on smoking in confined public places was introduced, figures seem to show the legislation has been a success in terms of improving public health.

Hospitals have seen small drops in the number of patients admitted with heart attacks, children are no longer subjected to the same levels of second-hand smoke they were before the 2007 ban and it seems that fears smokers would simply puff away more in their own homes have proved unfounded.

So far so good – even an anti-ban advocate like me can’t argue with positive outcomes like that.

But, as a non-smoker, my gripe has never been about the fact that people can’t light up in the pub – it’s been about the fact that a liberty was given up with such ease.

Now it seems that the smoking ban as it stands doesn’t go far enough for some.

The Royal College of Physicians now supports a total ban on smoking in cars.

There has been talk of banning smoking in private cars when children are present and I am all for that because children can’t make an informed choice on whether they want to breath in second-hand smoke or not and they should rightly be protected from it.

But it’s those two words: “informed choice” which should be at the centre of any legislation such as the smoking ban.

Banning people from doing something which is legal, in their own car, is a step too far when it comes to infringing our civil liberties.

If I did smoke, and I wanted to light up in my motor, on my own, and have a cig, who the hell are you to tell me I’m not allowed to?

I should be able to make that decision for myself based on the latest information available to me on the dangers to my health of smoking – ie, I should be able to make an informed choice.

Rather than taking away a freedom, our focus should be on educating children about the dangers of smoking and making sure they never start in the first place.

Nobody starts smoking at 40 – it’s the 13-year-old who has his first crafty fag behind the bike sheds at school we should be targeting.

I remember last time I wrote on this subject I received letters and online vitriol from supporters of the ban.

All of their comments failed to grasp my point.

Most of them said smoking was a filthy dangerous habit and it was good to be able to go into pubs without having your clothes smell of smoke – I agree completely.

Here is my point again – and I challenge anyone to come up with an argument against it: Why, in a democracy, can I not open a pub for adults who want to smoke?

It would be staffed by people who knew the nature of the premises, there would be signs on the door stating “You are about to enter a smoking pub” and the customers would all understand that if they entered, they would be welcome to light up.

Non-smokers would, of course, be welcome to enter on the understanding that when they left, their clothes would smell of tobacco.

Such businesses could perhaps be run under licence, with the fee going to fund anti-smoking education or to the NHS.

Once again I challenge anyone to tell me why, in a democratic society, this is wrong?

Comments(9)

NickPheas says...
12:31pm Fri 13 Jul 12

Smoking in pubs renders those pubs foul for the rest of us. I am very happy that it's been banned.
But if you want to make your car stink that I agree that's up to you.

patriotic citizen says...
1:12pm Fri 13 Jul 12

On April 7th 2004 my mothers 69th birthday, having just been diagnosed with lung cancer (a lifelong smoker and a nurse she was aware her death would likely be of Lung cancer) i asked her why she never gave up smoking Her reply My Body My Life My Choice Mom passed away 3 weeks later. No EU edict would have stopped her enjoying a fag. she raised 6 children in a smoky house non of us have had any tobbacco related illnesses. Freedom to choose a right in a free country something we haven't been for forty years.

chas says...
2:09pm Fri 13 Jul 12

The smoking ban was introduced because of the lies of Tobacco Control. They say millions die every year from passive smoking, but they have never shown us a death death certificate stating that te cause or secondary cause was due to second hand smoke.

Zetkin says...
5:49pm Fri 13 Jul 12

Nothing to do with the EU.

patriotic citizen says...
6:13pm Fri 13 Jul 12

in 2009 The EU suggested member states look into the potential for a smoking ban by 2012, Labour interpreted that as ban smoking in public places. State control of our lives.

chris w says...
9:29pm Fri 13 Jul 12

Richard,
There has been no drops in Heart attacks due to the Smoking ban,bigger drops were reported over some years before the Ban,percentage rates fluctuate Year to Year,if anything, reductions might be due to the use of Statins and stents, not Smoking as Smoking rates are actually about the same and Passive smoke has never been Scientifically proven to seriously harm anyone,ask the Health and Safety executive who stated this in 2006,only biased studies support harm caused by S.H.S !

chris w says...
9:42pm Fri 13 Jul 12

Richard,
You are also wrong about no increase in Smoking in the home,millions of people no longer or rarely visit Pubs ect., due to the Ban ,(around 10,000 have shut in the U.K) myself included and so it goes without question that they will be at home Smoking more than ever !unless they are barred by the wife !

Matt_S says...
5:37am Sat 14 Jul 12

chris w wrote:
Richard,
There has been no drops in Heart attacks due to the Smoking ban,bigger drops were reported over some years before the Ban,percentage rates fluctuate Year to Year,if anything, reductions might be due to the use of Statins and stents, not Smoking as Smoking rates are actually about the same and Passive smoke has never been Scientifically proven to seriously harm anyone,ask the Health and Safety executive who stated this in 2006,only biased studies support harm caused by S.H.S !
How is the following study on asthma biased?

http://ajph.aphapubl
ications.org/doi/pdf
/10.2105/AJPH.93.12.
2055

apollo13 says...
11:40am Sat 14 Jul 12

I think Richard has a valid point. I am lifetime non-smoker and the point is about choice. My choice is not to smoke as I think it's an awful habit...again my opinion, my choice.

I didn't get a choice when smokers can light up in pubs and restaurants and I would breath in their smoke and my clothes stank of their habits. Like the smokers, the non-smokers deserved the choice too.

I do agree that you have choices and if you want to be a smoker that's fine, I don't hold that against you, just don't do this in front of me, that's my choice!!

I also think that there should be licences issued for a limited amount of pubs, clubs and restaurants so that people can make an informed choice, personally I will be avoiding them like the plague, but that is my choice.

The ban, in my mind is brilliant it has worked in New York, where I experienced a smoke free bar for the first time back in 2004.

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