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10:07am Thursday 30th November 2006

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By Julian Cole »

WHAT a lot of criticism British Airways came into for banning an employee from wearing a cross at work.

So much has been said and written on this topic, too much for secular ears, that I don't intend to add a great deal.

Except to point out two aspects of this religious row: one, it was a very big fuss over a very small cross; two, BA appears only to have climbed down after the Church of England made noises about the shares it owns in the company, therefore acting like any other big organisation in a bullying mood.

Here is another religious story. This one has caused only a stir, but maybe the ripples will spread - they certainly should.

According to a national newspaper report this week, dozens of schools are using creationist teaching materials which have been condemned by the Government as "not appropriate to support the science curriculum".

These packs are supplied by a group called Truth In Science, and they offer a creationist alternative to Darwinian evolution under the guise of promoting intelligent design.

It is worth taking a moment here to consider the two sides. Charles Darwin, the pioneering British naturalist, developed the theory of natural selection, which argues that mankind evolved - and was not summoned up by a deity in a week. His view has been argued over in the detail, but is supported by most scientists (and those who disagree often turn out to be Christians).

Yet to the religious right, particularly in the United States, Darwinism is seen as an insult to God. Hence the creationist theory, which argues that God created everything just as it says in the Bible.

Yet creationism is a tough swallow in a questioning world. So the creationists came up with an alternative, a sort of creationist-lite, and called it intelligent design.

This argues that life is so complex it must have been designed by a higher being or deity. It doesn't stick so closely to the biblical letter, and does at least acknowledge that the earth is millions of years old - which is just as well, because this has been proved beyond doubt.

For all that, intelligent design remains a religious or philosophical line of argument. It is not science because it cannot be tested, has no theoretical basis and is nothing more than a supernatural theory based on belief Phil Willis, the Lib Dem MP for Harrogate and Knaresborough, is horrified that such spurious material is being promoted in schools, and, in his role as chairman of the Parliamentary science and technology select committee, said that he was "flabbergasted that any head of science would give credence to this creationist theory and be prepared to put it alongside Darwinism".

Here is a quote from a supporter of intelligent design: "Just because it takes a negative look at Darwinism doesn't mean it is not science." Shockingly, the speaker teaches at a school in Liverpool. Even more shockingly, he is head of chemistry.

Isn't that like employing an ardent atheist to teach religious studies? That, as it happens, is just where intelligent design should be discussed, if it has to be taught anywhere - in religious studies, and not in science.

These matters are more heated in the States, where the religious right carries greater weight. But it is alarming to see evidence here of what might be termed under-hand evangelism.

Everything can inspire humour or satire, and so it is with intelligent design. In the US, a physics graduate called Bobby Henderson has created a mock-religion called Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, which argues that a competing theory has gone overlooked. This is that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

"None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it," says Bobby in an open letter to the Kansas school board, which is published on his website (go on, Google it - it's silly, but a good laugh). Bobby's point is easily understood: a Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as rational an explanation as intelligent design. Maybe, and it's just a passing disrespectful thought, more so.

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John Richardson, says...
11:49am Thu 30 Nov 06

Anyone who thinks that the situation regarding the origins of the universe is as simple as the dichotomy presented in this article suggests (ie ignorant 'creationsim' or rational 'science') should read Paul Davies' The Goldilocks Enigma. Davies, a cosmologist, asks why it is that, as he puts it, "Everyone [by which I think he means, 'Everyone who looks at the evidence and understands it') agrees that the universe looks as if it was designed for life." Davies, a cosmologist by profession, does not accept intelligent design, but he accepts it is a reasonable attempt to explain the phenomena science has revealed and that it may turn out to be right.

Lou, says...
12:10pm Thu 30 Nov 06

Intelligent Design !!!Brain washing as many parts, though not all, of religion has done over centuries to control the masses

Most of America and anyone who falls for this elsewhere needs their heads looking at. If a school that my child attended started teaching this rubbish I would take them out of school and have the Governing body resign on mass through parent power. We teach kids not to lie, so why teach them lies in science which is based on fact. By all means teach intelligent design in religious studies, but thats where it should stay.

FSM Fan, says...
12:26pm Thu 30 Nov 06

Flying Spaghetti Monster website here:
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

V funny - also great theory about global warming being caused by lack of pirates.

Daniel, says...
1:32pm Thu 30 Nov 06

John Richardson wrote:
Anyone who thinks that the situation regarding the origins of the universe is as simple as the dichotomy presented in this article suggests (ie ignorant 'creationsim' or rational 'science') should read Paul Davies' The Goldilocks Enigma. Davies, a cosmologist, asks why it is that, as he puts it, "Everyone [by which I think he means, 'Everyone who looks at the evidence and understands it') agrees that the universe looks as if it was designed for life." Davies, a cosmologist by profession, does not accept intelligent design, but he accepts it is a reasonable attempt to explain the phenomena science has revealed and that it may turn out to be right.
"..looks as if it was designed for life"

Well it would do wouldn't it? Very much like our planet "...looks as if it was designed for life" because the people doing the looking are on the planet.

It is a very weak argument.

Who would observe if a universe was unfit for life?

Jon E, says...
2:33pm Thu 30 Nov 06

The Creation movement have been putting out the same old lies for years. They've been challenged and disproved again and again and they just keep coming back with the same circular arguments.

Glad to see that there is another devote of the noodly one writing in hear.

All Hail The Pasta!

AA, says...
4:59pm Thu 30 Nov 06

How many more scientific proofs need to be given that the earth is less than 100 000 years old! How many more?! You only need 1 proof that the earth not old and you don't have to prove anything more. Evolutionist have great faith.
You either believe:

In the beginning there was nothing, then it exploded.

You call this scientific! What a joke. You also want me to believe in spontaneous regeneration, a theory that's been proven wrong over 50 years ago?

OR

In the beginning God...

Now there's a nice discussion, which God will you choose. Go for the guy that made the biggest impact ever, the date on the back of your coin, the churches...go for Jesus!

Hadley, says...
7:08pm Thu 30 Nov 06

'Truth in Science' - a more inappropriate name for this Creationism in Disguise group is difficult to imagine. There is no science in creationism, not even when you dress it up as 'intelligent design'.

This website has been put together by a group of people, many professionals and academics, who object to creationism being taught in our schools: http://bcseweb.org.uk/ It is worth reading even if you only have a passing interest in the current debate.

If creationism is to be mentioned at all in schools then it should be in RE lessons along with the rest of the faith based beliefs of religious people.
Evolution belongs in science because it has the empirical evidence to support it. The same cannot be said for any other posited explanation of how life came to be on this planet.

BillDunc, says...
7:56pm Thu 30 Nov 06

I have looked at the material at the Truth in science website and it is the usual creationist nonsense maskerading as Science. It is in fact pseudo science and prodices no theroies that can be falsified or predictions that can be tested. Do not fall for this nonsense. If they want to teach this material it should be within the context of religious classes and most definately not within science classes. How interesting that the very few "scientists" who claim to believe this nonsense are usually 1) not biologists 2) "scientists" from other disciplines with a clearly limited understanding of evolution and 3) invariably have a strong fundamental religious conviction.

John Kilpatrick, says...
9:43pm Thu 30 Nov 06

Julian,
You find it shocking that the teacher in Liverpool is a chemistry teacher? Perhaps you should find it even more shocking that he is one of the best teachers of chemistry in the country.
I'm glad to say that this isn't the worst piece of journalism (not by far) I've read on this subject in the last couple of days but it is nevertheless tiresome to read lines like, 'the creationists came up with an alternative, a sort of creationist-lite, and called it intelligent design.' without the confession that this is opinion (and a bit derivative at that) rather than news.
In a propagandist state one can attribute the actions of one group of people to another group altogether and get away with it, I suppose, but here we should see it as an abuse of a free press and you should do better, for your own sake. Who will care what you say if you don't carefully report whom it is who is saying whatever it is that they care about?

christopher lawless, says...
11:27pm Thu 30 Nov 06

you are all wrong! the universe was created by the flying spaghetti monster and he is our king!

Tom Lister, says...
12:24am Fri 1 Dec 06

It is interesting to read one more article which dogmatically accepts Evolution as scientific fact when it itself is a theory with many Secular critics. Julian, read a (secular) book called "Darwin's Black Box" by Michael J Behe - it might shake your faith a little.

Jon E, says...
9:04am Fri 1 Dec 06

Maybe Tom Lister should get hold of a copy of the Discovery Institutes 'Wedge' document that makes quite clear what Intelligent Design is really about. Michael Behe and his fellows are trying to get rid of anything that challanges Christianity.

No one has ever demostrated proof for Intelligent Design or Creationism. They have been given the opertunity to do so again and again and have always declined to do so. All they have tried to do is pick holes in the scientific theory and been shown up on every occassion.

There is a vast amount of proof for evolution and real scientist willingly publish their results for all to see. No creationist is willing to do this as they know that they will be torn to pieces for their falsehoods.

shrodi, says...
2:11pm Fri 1 Dec 06

What I always fail to understand is how ID tenants can ignore their own argument: «Life is so complex it must have been designed by a higher being.» OK, now what about this higher being? Certainly, the creator must be superior to its creatures, so it would follow from the same logic that the creator must therefore have a creator as well, which would have a creator too and so on...

Ally, says...
3:40pm Fri 1 Dec 06

John Kilpatrick wrote: “ it is nevertheless tiresome to read lines like, 'the creationists came up with an alternative, a sort of creationist-lite, and called it intelligent design.'”

It may be tiresome, but it accurate. This was exactly the finding of a court case in the USA last year, which concluded that Intelligent Design was creationism in disguise. The trial transcripts, witness statements etc. can be found on the NCSE website, here;

http://www2.ncseweb.org/wp/?page_id=5


For the true motives of the proponents of ID, you should read the Wedge document here;

http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html

which makes the religious nature of ID starkly obvious.

There is an organisation dedicated to opposing creationist invasion of science classes in the UK; here;

http://www.justscience.org.uk/tikiwiki-1.9.5/tiki-index.php

Doug Hakala, says...
12:11am Sat 2 Dec 06

Ah yes I was waiting for someone to mention Behe. Michael Behe has the distinction of redefining science to include Magic! When testifying at the Kitzmiller trial last year he admitted that there was no evidence supproting his claims, his publications had never actually been peer reviewed, and that his theories only worked if you believed in God. Now that's what I call unbiased!

Leon Bell, says...
5:44pm Sat 2 Dec 06

From the U.S. where this has been going on for far too long....
For those that think there is a scientific debate...

1) The vast majority of people that are "experts" who support the ID/Creationism Science argument are lawyers, politicians, theologians or mereley self-proclaimed experts.

2) Of the scientific "experts" most are from non-biologic backgrounds or engineers speaking far out of their area of expertise....Most of whom were deeply religious even before their studies. Dr. Behe is hardly secular.

3) The HUGE majority of experts who might have sufficient experience and knowledge in biology and its related sciences to evaluate the data are as convinced of evolution as physicists are of gravity and light.

4) The argument that there is genuine controversy to be taught in science regarding the fact of evolution (as opposed to the details of specific components within) is comparable to demanding that because half the class in advanced math course doesn't get the answer that an "alternative math" ,that respects the wrong (if common) answer, should be taught.

5) Look closely at the ID/Creationist crowd and inspect their credentials regarding background and experience in biology and science (therefore their credibility). I would submit that on the whole scientists know science better than lawyers, politicians, and businessmen.

Jon E, says...
9:55am Mon 4 Dec 06

Well said Leon Bell.

The originators of Intelligent Design are actually lawyers trying to pull down the First Amendmant of the US constitution. They care nothing for truth. They are just interested in power.

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