City centre development set to include new houses and public toilets

Artist's impression of the development in Rougier Street

Artist's impression of the development in Rougier Street

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THE redevelopment of a former city centre office building into apartments is set to include three new mews houses and the relocation of public toilets.

The Skelwith Group, which is working on converting Roman House in Rougier Street into 47 apartments, has agreed with City of York Council to relocate the public toilets from Tanner Row into Rougier Street.

The move is aimed at improving the street scene along Tanner Row, while allowing for the provision of more modern public facilities.

In place of the toilets Skelwith will build three new mews houses in Tanner Row, with a planning application for both under consideration with the council.

Along with the three new mews houses, Skelwith has also submitted a planning application to create a courtyard at the back of Roman house, incorporating three more apartments on the ground floor of the building.

Paul Ellis, managing director of Skelwith, said: "Since acquiring the building, we have been working closely with the council to improve the area and general environment around our development.

"The new toilets will be a great improvement for everyone and we welcome the council’s plans to replace the bus shelters on the building. These, along with our redesigned courtyard at the back of Roman House will ensure that the whole area will look better and act as a catalyst for further regeneration.

“Both we and the council agree that replacing the toilets with new homes will further improve the street scene, making it a more active and pleasant place for pedestrians.

“The interest and sales we have achieved for the apartments has exceeded our expectations and highlights the strength of the York market at the moment.”

Currently shell completion works are at an advanced stage and are do to be completed in the coming weeks.

The new toilets will be located next to the current newsagent retail unit in Rougier Street and will be run by Healthmatic on behalf of the council.

Skelwith bought the 35,000 sq ft Roman House from insurance giant Aviva in September 2013 after it became surplus to the insurance company’s office requirements.

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9:15am Mon 11 Aug 14

Candy Cupcake says...

I really can't think of a worse place to live in York... If the council are committed to improving the area around Tanner Row and Rougier Street, I think they need to tackle the drinking problem York seems to have developed over the years.... Just saying x
I really can't think of a worse place to live in York... If the council are committed to improving the area around Tanner Row and Rougier Street, I think they need to tackle the drinking problem York seems to have developed over the years.... Just saying x Candy Cupcake
  • Score: 56

9:19am Mon 11 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Good luck sleeping on a night. !!
Good luck sleeping on a night. !! smudge2
  • Score: 50

9:22am Mon 11 Aug 14

Miles Davis says...

Tanner Row and Rougier Street are absolute sewers at night. Drink fueled kids weeing, vomiting and fighting while the 'nightclubs' feed them cheap alcohol and kick them out for someone else to deal with. Would not live there if you paid me.
Tanner Row and Rougier Street are absolute sewers at night. Drink fueled kids weeing, vomiting and fighting while the 'nightclubs' feed them cheap alcohol and kick them out for someone else to deal with. Would not live there if you paid me. Miles Davis
  • Score: 46

9:33am Mon 11 Aug 14

Fat Harry says...

No bad thing that these squalid loos are to be replaced, but it's regrettable that they're going to be privatised. Who needs the ConDems when you've got the Labour Party in charge?

Hope the replacement of the bus shelter will involve measures to discourage the constant illegal smoking that currently blights it.
No bad thing that these squalid loos are to be replaced, but it's regrettable that they're going to be privatised. Who needs the ConDems when you've got the Labour Party in charge? Hope the replacement of the bus shelter will involve measures to discourage the constant illegal smoking that currently blights it. Fat Harry
  • Score: -5

9:36am Mon 11 Aug 14

Funnyian says...

Great i would love to live above a public loo, can watch all the homeless doing whatever they do best at 40p a time
Great i would love to live above a public loo, can watch all the homeless doing whatever they do best at 40p a time Funnyian
  • Score: 30

9:40am Mon 11 Aug 14

stevenz23 says...

Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7.

Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for.

I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.
Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7. Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for. I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town. stevenz23
  • Score: 26

10:21am Mon 11 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

stevenz23 wrote:
Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7.

Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for.

I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.
Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them .
[quote][p][bold]stevenz23[/bold] wrote: Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7. Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for. I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.[/p][/quote]Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them . smudge2
  • Score: 9

10:45am Mon 11 Aug 14

stevenz23 says...

smudge2 wrote:
stevenz23 wrote:
Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7.

Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for.

I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.
Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them .
Thankfully this is true!
(Its just a shame the council outsources public loos and tries to make savings/money out of them)
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevenz23[/bold] wrote: Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7. Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for. I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.[/p][/quote]Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them .[/p][/quote]Thankfully this is true! (Its just a shame the council outsources public loos and tries to make savings/money out of them) stevenz23
  • Score: 6

11:12am Mon 11 Aug 14

Bailed Out says...

I would sooner live in a cardboard box than live there. Good luck to all who buy there, they will need it.
I would sooner live in a cardboard box than live there. Good luck to all who buy there, they will need it. Bailed Out
  • Score: 16

11:29am Mon 11 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

stevenz23 wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
stevenz23 wrote:
Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7.

Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for.

I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.
Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them .
Thankfully this is true!
(Its just a shame the council outsources public loos and tries to make savings/money out of them)
I'm afraid the days of "spending a penny" have long gone.Try Whitby council loos @ 40 p (Good job they have built a Wetherspoons down the road with great facilities)
[quote][p][bold]stevenz23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevenz23[/bold] wrote: Public toilets should be FREE and there should be enough of them around a town and they should be OPEN 24/7. Its part of what we pay COUNCIL TAX for. I REFUSE to ever pay ANYTHING just because I need the loo while I'm in town.[/p][/quote]Ther are plenty of bars and large department stores with cafés in York so there's not really a problem as they all have reasonable loos in them .[/p][/quote]Thankfully this is true! (Its just a shame the council outsources public loos and tries to make savings/money out of them)[/p][/quote]I'm afraid the days of "spending a penny" have long gone.Try Whitby council loos @ 40 p (Good job they have built a Wetherspoons down the road with great facilities) smudge2
  • Score: 6

11:37am Mon 11 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

To be honest what else could that building be other than a hotel or bar.Its better to be tidied up than left an eye sore.They will need good soundproofing and free lifetime supply of earplugs to whoever purchase's an apartment.Well done Skelwith group on investing your money in project's in and around York.
To be honest what else could that building be other than a hotel or bar.Its better to be tidied up than left an eye sore.They will need good soundproofing and free lifetime supply of earplugs to whoever purchase's an apartment.Well done Skelwith group on investing your money in project's in and around York. Monks Boss
  • Score: 11

11:41am Mon 11 Aug 14

Omega Point says...

Bailed Out wrote:
I would sooner live in a cardboard box than live there. Good luck to all who buy there, they will need it.
I have not seen the dimensions of the rooms of these proposed dwellings but they might be similar in proportion if some contemporary housing is anthing to go by
[quote][p][bold]Bailed Out[/bold] wrote: I would sooner live in a cardboard box than live there. Good luck to all who buy there, they will need it.[/p][/quote]I have not seen the dimensions of the rooms of these proposed dwellings but they might be similar in proportion if some contemporary housing is anthing to go by Omega Point
  • Score: 13

12:47pm Mon 11 Aug 14

oi oi savaloy says...

It will be like living in the West end of San Antonio on weekend!
It will be like living in the West end of San Antonio on weekend! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -8

12:51pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.)
Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.) Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 2

1:11pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Fanny Free House says...

Funnyian wrote:
Great i would love to live above a public loo, can watch all the homeless doing whatever they do best at 40p a time
Totally agree, can you imagine a warm summers evening, flat widow open and the stench permeating in an upward direction.
[quote][p][bold]Funnyian[/bold] wrote: Great i would love to live above a public loo, can watch all the homeless doing whatever they do best at 40p a time[/p][/quote]Totally agree, can you imagine a warm summers evening, flat widow open and the stench permeating in an upward direction. Fanny Free House
  • Score: 12

2:27pm Mon 11 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.)
Many supermarkets in York have public loos but not the mini ones. Morrisons foss islands, Sainsburys Monks cross spring to mind.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.)[/p][/quote]Many supermarkets in York have public loos but not the mini ones. Morrisons foss islands, Sainsburys Monks cross spring to mind. smudge2
  • Score: 3

2:31pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Pedro says...

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7:57pm Mon 11 Aug 14

nottoooldtocare says...

I think some are missing the point here. Going to the loo in public or on a highway is illegal. The difficulty we are getting to in York is that there are no free toilets open 24 hours. So, when revellers tip out late at night, with no change in their pockets and need the loo they will go wherever they can. I am not supporting or defending this, but urinating in a public place is difficult to avoid it there are no conveniences open.

As for living above the bus station, boxing ring, night club and taxi rank etc, etc. Who in their right mind would buy one of these? Unless of course you are renting it out for visiting revellers so they can fall out of the pub and into bed.
I think some are missing the point here. Going to the loo in public or on a highway is illegal. The difficulty we are getting to in York is that there are no free toilets open 24 hours. So, when revellers tip out late at night, with no change in their pockets and need the loo they will go wherever they can. I am not supporting or defending this, but urinating in a public place is difficult to avoid it there are no conveniences open. As for living above the bus station, boxing ring, night club and taxi rank etc, etc. Who in their right mind would buy one of these? Unless of course you are renting it out for visiting revellers so they can fall out of the pub and into bed. nottoooldtocare
  • Score: 8

8:12pm Mon 11 Aug 14

TCJYork says...

Ha! So now not only do you have to put up with 'late-night-reveller
s' but there'll be a horrible stinking public loo under your windows.

LUXURY
Ha! So now not only do you have to put up with 'late-night-reveller s' but there'll be a horrible stinking public loo under your windows. LUXURY TCJYork
  • Score: 3

9:19pm Mon 11 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Candy Cupcake wrote:
I really can't think of a worse place to live in York... If the council are committed to improving the area around Tanner Row and Rougier Street, I think they need to tackle the drinking problem York seems to have developed over the years.... Just saying x
When did you move to York?

As a teenager, you used to queue to get into most pubs, there were pubs like Davey Jones which was referred to as the 'youth club'. The City has cleaned up its act... Just saying!
[quote][p][bold]Candy Cupcake[/bold] wrote: I really can't think of a worse place to live in York... If the council are committed to improving the area around Tanner Row and Rougier Street, I think they need to tackle the drinking problem York seems to have developed over the years.... Just saying x[/p][/quote]When did you move to York? As a teenager, you used to queue to get into most pubs, there were pubs like Davey Jones which was referred to as the 'youth club'. The City has cleaned up its act... Just saying! eeoodares
  • Score: -3

9:38pm Mon 11 Aug 14

AnotherPointofView says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.)
Agreed. I Drive around York for most of the day, it is difficult to find anywhere easy to get to. These are very convenient (pun intended) to park outside for brief period.

I pay a lot of money in council tax and think the council should provide somewhere free for taxi/van/lorry drivers to go when nature calls.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: Think you all will find that trying to find let alone use Facilities in Pubs etc and your not a customer is frowned abound on, supermarkets dont have public loos, and large stores, cafes are the same as pubs. The council ar heading for people using the streets. (PORTALOOS are not the answer.)[/p][/quote]Agreed. I Drive around York for most of the day, it is difficult to find anywhere easy to get to. These are very convenient (pun intended) to park outside for brief period. I pay a lot of money in council tax and think the council should provide somewhere free for taxi/van/lorry drivers to go when nature calls. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 6

10:03am Tue 12 Aug 14

gwen4me says...

Why should the council waste public money on loos when the public will just ruin them. The native population in this country have the toilet habits of chimpanzees.
Why should the council waste public money on loos when the public will just ruin them. The native population in this country have the toilet habits of chimpanzees. gwen4me
  • Score: -1

1:00pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Pinza-C55 says...

It's great news that the ghastly bus shelters are to be replaced but quite bizarre that the new toilets will face onto the bus stand. At least if they are privatised hopefully it will discourage the tramps who currently make them their base.
I can't imagine who will want to live in the "mews houses" on Friday and Saturday night ?
It sounds as though they are trying to cram as many flats as possible into this development.
It's great news that the ghastly bus shelters are to be replaced but quite bizarre that the new toilets will face onto the bus stand. At least if they are privatised hopefully it will discourage the tramps who currently make them their base. I can't imagine who will want to live in the "mews houses" on Friday and Saturday night ? It sounds as though they are trying to cram as many flats as possible into this development. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 0

4:35am Wed 13 Aug 14

Magicman! says...

Monks Boss wrote:
To be honest what else could that building be other than a hotel or bar.Its better to be tidied up than left an eye sore.They will need good soundproofing and free lifetime supply of earplugs to whoever purchase's an apartment.Well done Skelwith group on investing your money in project's in and around York.
Student accommodation for one of the other of the two universities? Then the noise from the street wouldn't bother them, as they'd likely be down there with the rest anyway...
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: To be honest what else could that building be other than a hotel or bar.Its better to be tidied up than left an eye sore.They will need good soundproofing and free lifetime supply of earplugs to whoever purchase's an apartment.Well done Skelwith group on investing your money in project's in and around York.[/p][/quote]Student accommodation for one of the other of the two universities? Then the noise from the street wouldn't bother them, as they'd likely be down there with the rest anyway... Magicman!
  • Score: 0

4:38am Wed 13 Aug 14

Magicman! says...

In place of the toilets Skelwith will build three new mews houses in Tanner Row

So where there is currently a block of toilets in Tanner Row, there will be THREE houses... those are going to be dam tiny houses!
[quote]In place of the toilets Skelwith will build three new mews houses in Tanner Row[/quote] So where there is currently a block of toilets in Tanner Row, there will be THREE houses... those are going to be dam tiny houses! Magicman!
  • Score: 0

10:38am Thu 14 Aug 14

BethFoxhunter96 says...

omg... unisex toilets? Eww.
omg... unisex toilets? Eww. BethFoxhunter96
  • Score: 0

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