Jobs go at York’s Mulberry Hall

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SEVERAL members of staff at York’s Mulberry Hall are set to lose their jobs in the wake of “difficult” Christmas and New Year trading.

Adam Sinclair, boss of the Stonegate-based fine china & crystal specialists, said it was consulting on proposals to make redundant and lay off about ten per cent of the workforce.

He said the move was being taken to safeguard the medium and long-term future of the business, which had been hit by a series of problems culminating in difficult trading conditions over the important Christmas and New Year period.

These included the recession, which was hitting spending on luxury items, and the growth in online spending at the expense of high street retail businesses.

Because of its setting in an historic building, Mulberry Hall also faced particularly big increases in costs including buildings maintenance, lighting and heating, and rent and business rates, as well as additional increases in National Insurance.

Other factors included the cost of parking for shoppers using the city centre, compared with the free parking enjoyed by motorists at out-of-town shopping centres.

“We need a change in mindset in York about issues such as parking charges,” he said, although he admitted there was little chance of fees being scrapped altogether.

He said the redundancy decision had been very difficult, as many of the employees affected had worked for Mulberry Hall for many years.

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10:34am Tue 15 Jan 13

djtswilson says...

Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!!
Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!! djtswilson
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10:38am Tue 15 Jan 13

The Great Buda says...

Whilst I have every sympathy for the staff losing their jobs in these hard times; in taking aim at parking charges and out of town centres, Mr Sinclair is missing the bigger picture:

The internet.

A failure to adapt will kill off many more shops than parking prices. Evolve or die.
Whilst I have every sympathy for the staff losing their jobs in these hard times; in taking aim at parking charges and out of town centres, Mr Sinclair is missing the bigger picture: The internet. A failure to adapt will kill off many more shops than parking prices. Evolve or die. The Great Buda
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10:52am Tue 15 Jan 13

TerryYork says...

I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC. TerryYork
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11:02am Tue 15 Jan 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

djtswilson wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!!
Never been in the place but then again, apart from food and petrol, I've been buying my stuff from the internet for years because it's so much cheaper.

12,000 jobs gone in the past month (Comet, Jessops, HMV). Who is to blame? Anybody? Well, much of the blame lies at the door of successive governments for being utterly crap when it comes to fiscal competency, strategy and punishment of those (bankers) who have wrecked the country. I've said it before, retail and housing are not safe reliable and bounce-backable sectors of any economy. In today's world, you're only worth something if you make something that the world demands.

The UK is facing a grim few years ahead, possibly even an epoch of austerity and that's if the powers that be manage to keep control of their populations.

Anyway, the data sadly suggests that more big chains and small shops will go bust so there will probably be many more Mulberry Hall stories.

Thatcher and her cronies have much to answer for. The switch to a service based economy (admittedly it isn't all service based but much of it is) has been an utter disaster. The big changes started happening in her era. How many people nowadays really enjoy their 'service sector' based jobs? Asking people if 'everything is okay for them?'. Bull-sheeting a sales plater down the end of a phone. Awful. People are worth more than that. And then a snot-nosed 'Recruitment' consultant or HR muppet advertises a crummy 13k a year job as a 'fantastic opportunity' to provide 'excellent' customer service'. All I see and read is betty swallocks. I could go on about the worthlessness of Human Resources but I won't. I'll just point you in the direction of the huge amount of unfilled poorly-paid high-skilled IT jobs advertised in the York area with must-have skill checks more complex that the human genome. Recruitment people really don't understand IT do they? Hang on, recruitment/HR really don't understand people. Big irony there.

Oh well.
[quote][p][bold]djtswilson[/bold] wrote: Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!![/p][/quote]Never been in the place but then again, apart from food and petrol, I've been buying my stuff from the internet for years because it's so much cheaper. 12,000 jobs gone in the past month (Comet, Jessops, HMV). Who is to blame? Anybody? Well, much of the blame lies at the door of successive governments for being utterly crap when it comes to fiscal competency, strategy and punishment of those (bankers) who have wrecked the country. I've said it before, retail and housing are not safe reliable and bounce-backable sectors of any economy. In today's world, you're only worth something if you make something that the world demands. The UK is facing a grim few years ahead, possibly even an epoch of austerity and that's if the powers that be manage to keep control of their populations. Anyway, the data sadly suggests that more big chains and small shops will go bust so there will probably be many more Mulberry Hall stories. Thatcher and her cronies have much to answer for. The switch to a service based economy (admittedly it isn't all service based but much of it is) has been an utter disaster. The big changes started happening in her era. How many people nowadays really enjoy their 'service sector' based jobs? Asking people if 'everything is okay for them?'. Bull-sheeting a sales plater down the end of a phone. Awful. People are worth more than that. And then a snot-nosed 'Recruitment' consultant or HR muppet advertises a crummy 13k a year job as a 'fantastic opportunity' to provide 'excellent' customer service'. All I see and read is betty swallocks. I could go on about the worthlessness of Human Resources but I won't. I'll just point you in the direction of the huge amount of unfilled poorly-paid high-skilled IT jobs advertised in the York area with must-have skill checks more complex that the human genome. Recruitment people really don't understand IT do they? Hang on, recruitment/HR really don't understand people. Big irony there. Oh well. ReginaldBiscuit
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11:10am Tue 15 Jan 13

again says...

Sadly I cannot disagree ReginaldBiscuit. What mugs we were.
Sadly I cannot disagree ReginaldBiscuit. What mugs we were. again
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11:25am Tue 15 Jan 13

Even AndyD says...

Nothing to do with parking charges - everything to do with the net and its impact on the High St. When long-established national retailers like HMV, JJB, Comet, Jessops can go to the wall, how can the blame possibly be leveled at local conditions?

The city centre will not die though, it will evolve, as it always has done. Still hard for those losing their jobs of-course.
Nothing to do with parking charges - everything to do with the net and its impact on the High St. When long-established national retailers like HMV, JJB, Comet, Jessops can go to the wall, how can the blame possibly be leveled at local conditions? The city centre will not die though, it will evolve, as it always has done. Still hard for those losing their jobs of-course. Even AndyD
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11:27am Tue 15 Jan 13

PhilipInYork says...

TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Yep. He directly lost trade - from me and at least one relative who was going to get a Christmas gift from there - because of Sinclair's pathetic rants against York City.

It all adds up.
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Yep. He directly lost trade - from me and at least one relative who was going to get a Christmas gift from there - because of Sinclair's pathetic rants against York City. It all adds up. PhilipInYork
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11:31am Tue 15 Jan 13

Platform9 says...

As well as banging on about cutting car park cost maybe Mr Sinclair would like to cut his profit margin by lowering his costs too?
As well as banging on about cutting car park cost maybe Mr Sinclair would like to cut his profit margin by lowering his costs too? Platform9
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11:35am Tue 15 Jan 13

speaks99 says...

Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous. speaks99
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11:40am Tue 15 Jan 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

De'Longhi Prima Donna Avant ESAM6700 Bean to Cup Espresso and Cappuccino Machine Stainless, Steel.

Mulberry Hall price. £1395.00

Amazon price. £940.39p

I rest my case.
De'Longhi Prima Donna Avant ESAM6700 Bean to Cup Espresso and Cappuccino Machine Stainless, Steel. Mulberry Hall price. £1395.00 Amazon price. £940.39p I rest my case. NoNewsIsGoodNews
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11:44am Tue 15 Jan 13

foreveryork says...

Sorry to the staff that are losing their jobs but to Adam Sinclair - 'What goes around comes around!'
Sorry to the staff that are losing their jobs but to Adam Sinclair - 'What goes around comes around!' foreveryork
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11:53am Tue 15 Jan 13

MouseHouse says...

Purveyors of the unnecessary are facig a decade of har work. How many working people can afford to spend big money on fancy fripperies at places like Mulberry Hall? Barnitts sells all you need for the kitchen (and elsewhere) at better prices.

I do feel very sorry for those losing their jobs having said all that.
Purveyors of the unnecessary are facig a decade of har work. How many working people can afford to spend big money on fancy fripperies at places like Mulberry Hall? Barnitts sells all you need for the kitchen (and elsewhere) at better prices. I do feel very sorry for those losing their jobs having said all that. MouseHouse
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12:10pm Tue 15 Jan 13

bob the builder says...

China China opened in an out of town shopping centre whilst claiming they took business from the city centre, then closed it citing it was loss making, then re opened it where the Denby shop had been! It's cheaper to buy the same goods mail order on the internet from Chinese China than Mulberry Hall or China China, and they're made in the same factories.
China China opened in an out of town shopping centre whilst claiming they took business from the city centre, then closed it citing it was loss making, then re opened it where the Denby shop had been! It's cheaper to buy the same goods mail order on the internet from Chinese China than Mulberry Hall or China China, and they're made in the same factories. bob the builder
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12:11pm Tue 15 Jan 13

meme says...

The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable
It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon
The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling [a great idea] but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon meme
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12:20pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Tinpot says...

We've avoided his pot shop since the anti sports stance he took, likewise Barnitts, we were in town on Saturday but I went to B&Q for the tool I needed on the way home rather than go in Barnitts as we walked past.
We've avoided his pot shop since the anti sports stance he took, likewise Barnitts, we were in town on Saturday but I went to B&Q for the tool I needed on the way home rather than go in Barnitts as we walked past. Tinpot
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12:41pm Tue 15 Jan 13

jadestars says...

Mulberry Hall has some wonderful items for sale, I go in, see what i want, go home, google it and hey presto I get the goods (amazon usually) for a fraction of the cost .. why would I spend over the odds on something I know is available online for around a third less than Mulberry Hall? This is the issue, overpriced goods! Coupled with a high rent it's no wonder staff are facing losing their jobs. It's not just Mulberry hall though, I generally shop online for everything now, times are tough and we're all looking for ways to save a bit of cash .. perhaps new cheaper premises and less profits from goods would save the staff?
Mulberry Hall has some wonderful items for sale, I go in, see what i want, go home, google it and hey presto I get the goods (amazon usually) for a fraction of the cost .. why would I spend over the odds on something I know is available online for around a third less than Mulberry Hall? This is the issue, overpriced goods! Coupled with a high rent it's no wonder staff are facing losing their jobs. It's not just Mulberry hall though, I generally shop online for everything now, times are tough and we're all looking for ways to save a bit of cash .. perhaps new cheaper premises and less profits from goods would save the staff? jadestars
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12:48pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Von_Dutch says...

My every sympathy with the poor staff who are going to lose their livelihood here. However Sinclair stating that parking charges are part of the reason is utter garbage - York is heaving with people and will continue to be so. You can barely move down Stonegate and nearby streets on a Saturday or the school holidays for the sheer amount of people. Parking is definitely NOT putting people off coming here. More likely his downturn in profits is due to his ridiculous prices for pottery frogs and other such tat...
My every sympathy with the poor staff who are going to lose their livelihood here. However Sinclair stating that parking charges are part of the reason is utter garbage - York is heaving with people and will continue to be so. You can barely move down Stonegate and nearby streets on a Saturday or the school holidays for the sheer amount of people. Parking is definitely NOT putting people off coming here. More likely his downturn in profits is due to his ridiculous prices for pottery frogs and other such tat... Von_Dutch
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12:48pm Tue 15 Jan 13

timcore says...

It is sad, but because of the recession I've had to review my spending on china and crystal goods. Maybe I inadvertently contributed to its downfall? I'll have difficulty sleeping tonight.
It is sad, but because of the recession I've had to review my spending on china and crystal goods. Maybe I inadvertently contributed to its downfall? I'll have difficulty sleeping tonight. timcore
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12:52pm Tue 15 Jan 13

YSTClinguist says...

On the surface, it's internet shopping that has done this. They don't need a place where the public physically come and examine and buy the goods. Shop front costs, staffing, insurance, etc.

Underneath though, it's the fact that those internet companies can charge less because the government is utilising a poor system of taxation that means corporations and large internet shopping companies are employing 'experts' to find and use loopholes to avoid paying tax.

If they had to pay 'proper and fair' taxes then their prices would be higher, perhaps similar and high street shops would survive. Understanding this, every time we as consumers click "add to basket" we are consigning our high street to the dustbin of time. More bars, cafes and restaurants coming to our high street soon!
On the surface, it's internet shopping that has done this. They don't need a place where the public physically come and examine and buy the goods. Shop front costs, staffing, insurance, etc. Underneath though, it's the fact that those internet companies can charge less because the government is utilising a poor system of taxation that means corporations and large internet shopping companies are employing 'experts' to find and use loopholes to avoid paying tax. If they had to pay 'proper and fair' taxes then their prices would be higher, perhaps similar and high street shops would survive. Understanding this, every time we as consumers click "add to basket" we are consigning our high street to the dustbin of time. More bars, cafes and restaurants coming to our high street soon! YSTClinguist
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12:55pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Minstermummy says...

I am sorry for the staff but Mr Sinclair has been up his own self importance for years ! And frankly put me off shopping in his stores for more than 20 years !
He has blocked every opportunity for York to grow economically with any new development - which would have brought new exciting shops to encourage residents and shoppers back to the city centre to sit alongside the old fashioned .
Car parking is a factor - he has a right to mention that as its so expensive but he cannot mention that without thinking he hasn't helped himself either !!
I am sorry for the staff but Mr Sinclair has been up his own self importance for years ! And frankly put me off shopping in his stores for more than 20 years ! He has blocked every opportunity for York to grow economically with any new development - which would have brought new exciting shops to encourage residents and shoppers back to the city centre to sit alongside the old fashioned . Car parking is a factor - he has a right to mention that as its so expensive but he cannot mention that without thinking he hasn't helped himself either !! Minstermummy
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12:55pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Fabius the Delayer says...

I visited York last Sunday with my daughter and here partner, I payed £5;00 to park in a little "multi" story car park above fenwicks, We walked by the river, did some shopping and had very enjoyable meal in the black swan. returning to my car £150 lighter of pocket but having spent a very enjoyable afternoon. I discovered that I had overstayed the parking ticket by 10 minutes and had a £25 ticket for the pleasure. I have to say this really took the shine off the day, and it will make me think twice before ambling carefree round the shops of york, spending money I could otherwise spend elsewhere, and yes there are no parking fees on the internet. Work it out before you all go the way of HMV, Jessops, Dixsons, etc.
I visited York last Sunday with my daughter and here partner, I payed £5;00 to park in a little "multi" story car park above fenwicks, We walked by the river, did some shopping and had very enjoyable meal in the black swan. returning to my car £150 lighter of pocket but having spent a very enjoyable afternoon. I discovered that I had overstayed the parking ticket by 10 minutes and had a £25 ticket for the pleasure. I have to say this really took the shine off the day, and it will make me think twice before ambling carefree round the shops of york, spending money I could otherwise spend elsewhere, and yes there are no parking fees on the internet. Work it out before you all go the way of HMV, Jessops, Dixsons, etc. Fabius the Delayer
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1:12pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

Sinclair's shop in Bakewell closed a few years ago due to poor trading. Shoppers there, as in York, are mostly day trippers who are not interested in buying heirlooms, investments and objet d'art on a jolly.

As far as the internet's concerned, why didn't Sinclairs indulge in e-commerce? Doesn't take much investment or brains to run a shop on the web or through ebay.

The losers in all this are the redundant staff who we must all feel sorry for. I hope they all find suitable employment elsewhere.
Sinclair's shop in Bakewell closed a few years ago due to poor trading. Shoppers there, as in York, are mostly day trippers who are not interested in buying heirlooms, investments and objet d'art on a jolly. As far as the internet's concerned, why didn't Sinclairs indulge in e-commerce? Doesn't take much investment or brains to run a shop on the web or through ebay. The losers in all this are the redundant staff who we must all feel sorry for. I hope they all find suitable employment elsewhere. Garrowby Turnoff
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1:15pm Tue 15 Jan 13

anti-rant says...

meme wrote:
The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable
It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon
Soooo...the slump in the high street retail sector has to do with the formation of the NHS. Master troll or master 'baiter'.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling [a great idea] but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon[/p][/quote]Soooo...the slump in the high street retail sector has to do with the formation of the NHS. Master troll or master 'baiter'. anti-rant
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1:17pm Tue 15 Jan 13

anti-rant says...

Tinpot wrote:
We've avoided his pot shop since the anti sports stance he took, likewise Barnitts, we were in town on Saturday but I went to B&Q for the tool I needed on the way home rather than go in Barnitts as we walked past.
Tool Station or Screwfix way cheaper than B7Q.
[quote][p][bold]Tinpot[/bold] wrote: We've avoided his pot shop since the anti sports stance he took, likewise Barnitts, we were in town on Saturday but I went to B&Q for the tool I needed on the way home rather than go in Barnitts as we walked past.[/p][/quote]Tool Station or Screwfix way cheaper than B7Q. anti-rant
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1:37pm Tue 15 Jan 13

tobefair says...

It's a good job for the city centre that you can't buy a cup of coffee on the internet.
It's a good job for the city centre that you can't buy a cup of coffee on the internet. tobefair
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2:18pm Tue 15 Jan 13

speaks99 says...

YSTClinguist wrote:
On the surface, it's internet shopping that has done this. They don't need a place where the public physically come and examine and buy the goods. Shop front costs, staffing, insurance, etc.

Underneath though, it's the fact that those internet companies can charge less because the government is utilising a poor system of taxation that means corporations and large internet shopping companies are employing 'experts' to find and use loopholes to avoid paying tax.

If they had to pay 'proper and fair' taxes then their prices would be higher, perhaps similar and high street shops would survive. Understanding this, every time we as consumers click "add to basket" we are consigning our high street to the dustbin of time. More bars, cafes and restaurants coming to our high street soon!
No. The reason Internet companies can charge less is that they have a much lower overhead cost. You don't need to pay rent or rates, very little (if any) staff costs and a virtual structure. Yes some companies use tax avoidance schemes, but that's not the main reason Internet shopping is cheaper.
[quote][p][bold]YSTClinguist[/bold] wrote: On the surface, it's internet shopping that has done this. They don't need a place where the public physically come and examine and buy the goods. Shop front costs, staffing, insurance, etc. Underneath though, it's the fact that those internet companies can charge less because the government is utilising a poor system of taxation that means corporations and large internet shopping companies are employing 'experts' to find and use loopholes to avoid paying tax. If they had to pay 'proper and fair' taxes then their prices would be higher, perhaps similar and high street shops would survive. Understanding this, every time we as consumers click "add to basket" we are consigning our high street to the dustbin of time. More bars, cafes and restaurants coming to our high street soon![/p][/quote]No. The reason Internet companies can charge less is that they have a much lower overhead cost. You don't need to pay rent or rates, very little (if any) staff costs and a virtual structure. Yes some companies use tax avoidance schemes, but that's not the main reason Internet shopping is cheaper. speaks99
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2:47pm Tue 15 Jan 13

tobefair says...

If high street stores keep going out of business at the current rate the internet giants will have to open 'view only' shops so customers have somewhere to go and see the goods before they buy. How else will we be able to examine products before we order them?
If high street stores keep going out of business at the current rate the internet giants will have to open 'view only' shops so customers have somewhere to go and see the goods before they buy. How else will we be able to examine products before we order them? tobefair
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3:02pm Tue 15 Jan 13

yorkborn66 says...

meme wrote:
The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable
It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon
It depends on your point of view and situation. I have paid National Insurance for 30 years in full and apart from the odd check up, last time I saw a doctor was 10 years ago up to August last year. I have paid into a system that I hope will take care of my health if required. Now I need the NHS, it is bogged down with more patients than it can cope with. The NHS was never designed to accommodate the open border policy for members of the EU.
I don’t criticise the doctors and nurses and all the different staff that are working extremely hard to try and make it work.
I don’t wish to be bitter but why should I have to wait months to see a consultant?
The same can also be said for the welfare state .
As a country we cannot carry on like this.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling [a great idea] but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon[/p][/quote]It depends on your point of view and situation. I have paid National Insurance for 30 years in full and apart from the odd check up, last time I saw a doctor was 10 years ago up to August last year. I have paid into a system that I hope will take care of my health if required. Now I need the NHS, it is bogged down with more patients than it can cope with. The NHS was never designed to accommodate the open border policy for members of the EU. I don’t criticise the doctors and nurses and all the different staff that are working extremely hard to try and make it work. I don’t wish to be bitter but why should I have to wait months to see a consultant? The same can also be said for the welfare state . As a country we cannot carry on like this. yorkborn66
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3:19pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

speaks99 wrote:
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does).

Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.
[quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.[/p][/quote]Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does). Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both. ReginaldBiscuit
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3:58pm Tue 15 Jan 13

dsom73 says...

It is now clearly the time to forget all about having a Community Stadium and a John Lewis as they're obviously wrecking York before they're even built.

We should take those millions and plough them into over-priced tat shops for tourists. Trickle down economics for the masses - feed that donkey more oats so it can poo them out for the plebs.
It is now clearly the time to forget all about having a Community Stadium and a John Lewis as they're obviously wrecking York before they're even built. We should take those millions and plough them into over-priced tat shops for tourists. Trickle down economics for the masses - feed that donkey more oats so it can poo them out for the plebs. dsom73
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3:58pm Tue 15 Jan 13

dsom73 says...

For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.
For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that. dsom73
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4:15pm Tue 15 Jan 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

dsom73 wrote:
For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.
What is the opposite of "that"?
[quote][p][bold]dsom73[/bold] wrote: For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.[/p][/quote]What is the opposite of "that"? NoNewsIsGoodNews
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4:28pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Guy Fawkes says...

Because of its setting in an historic building, Mulberry Hall also faced particularly big increases in costs including buildings maintenance, lighting and heating, and rent and business rates...


Surely the answer to that (and to the parking charge issue, if it really is a signficant issue) is to move out of their present location and into a unit at Clifton Moor or Monks Cross? It might not be good for the city centre in the short term, but if it saves jobs...
[quote]Because of its setting in an historic building, Mulberry Hall also faced particularly big increases in costs including buildings maintenance, lighting and heating, and rent and business rates...[/quote] Surely the answer to that (and to the parking charge issue, if it really is a signficant issue) is to move out of their present location and into a unit at Clifton Moor or Monks Cross? It might not be good for the city centre in the short term, but if it saves jobs... Guy Fawkes
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5:22pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Woody G Mellor says...

TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please! Woody G Mellor
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5:42pm Tue 15 Jan 13

speaks99 says...

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
speaks99 wrote:
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does).

Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.
HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake.
Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively.
Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys.
[quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.[/p][/quote]Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does). Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.[/p][/quote]HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake. Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively. Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys. speaks99
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5:51pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

speaks99 wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
speaks99 wrote:
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does).

Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.
HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake.
Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively.
Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys.
Goodness! Knowing that then, why did you not pass on the information to the 3 bust businesses? You'd have made a fortune advising them.
[quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.[/p][/quote]Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does). Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.[/p][/quote]HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake. Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively. Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys.[/p][/quote]Goodness! Knowing that then, why did you not pass on the information to the 3 bust businesses? You'd have made a fortune advising them. ReginaldBiscuit
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5:54pm Tue 15 Jan 13

speaks99 says...

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
speaks99 wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
speaks99 wrote:
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does).

Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.
HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake.
Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively.
Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys.
Goodness! Knowing that then, why did you not pass on the information to the 3 bust businesses? You'd have made a fortune advising them.
Isn't hindsight wonderful?
[quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.[/p][/quote]Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does). Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.[/p][/quote]HMV are fairly famous for being dismissive of new technology in the music industry, and being very slow on the uptake. Jessops did not develop the Internet side of there business effectively. Comet I think are suffering from playing second fiddle to currys.[/p][/quote]Goodness! Knowing that then, why did you not pass on the information to the 3 bust businesses? You'd have made a fortune advising them.[/p][/quote]Isn't hindsight wonderful? speaks99
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6:09pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ouseswimmer says...

In this minimal age people have stopped buying tat to clutter up their homes. Better to turn the place into a cafe employing lots more people.
In this minimal age people have stopped buying tat to clutter up their homes. Better to turn the place into a cafe employing lots more people. ouseswimmer
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6:12pm Tue 15 Jan 13

again says...

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
speaks99 wrote:
Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.
Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does).

Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.
OK, what did Mrs Thatcher do for us?

examples:

1st she abolished exchange controls allowing investment to flow out the country.

2nd she smashed the unions. Sure they were overbearing in some sectors but the net effect has been to allow employers to cut wages and make more profit.

3rd she could have retained N. Sea Oil revenue in a sovereign wealth fund that would have been extremely useful to the UK. Instead she gave it away in tax breaks and fuelled the house price boom.

4th she allowed the deregulation of financial services and for building societies to act as banks. Northern Rock, anyone? RBS anyone? Blame Brown if you like, but the rot started under Thatcher.
[quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: Look at the three examples of the 12,000 jobs you gave Reginald. They are all technology based businesses who agent kept up with the Internet. These examples have absolutely nothing to do with governments and everything to do with internal business strategy. To blame Thatcher for casualties of the Internet is frankly rediculuous.[/p][/quote]Read again. I wasn't blaming Thatcher for the internet, that's my personal sideswipe at a dictator who damaged society beyond a means of repair (much like any right-wing despot does). Redact your thoughts friend. HMV, Jessops and Comet all had internet sites for a good while. They were businesses selling items that people didn't want or couldn't afford or both.[/p][/quote]OK, what did Mrs Thatcher do for us? examples: 1st she abolished exchange controls allowing investment to flow out the country. 2nd she smashed the unions. Sure they were overbearing in some sectors but the net effect has been to allow employers to cut wages and make more profit. 3rd she could have retained N. Sea Oil revenue in a sovereign wealth fund that would have been extremely useful to the UK. Instead she gave it away in tax breaks and fuelled the house price boom. 4th she allowed the deregulation of financial services and for building societies to act as banks. Northern Rock, anyone? RBS anyone? Blame Brown if you like, but the rot started under Thatcher. again
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6:24pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

Wonder if Nipper, the Fox Terrier, had anything to do with it? Though I think it had more to do with dinosaur thinking back in the 90s when decisions to support actual CD disks, instead of downloading, was made. EMI suffered the same resistance to change and paid the price. Any decent dog would have know that Cylinders, Vinyl and CDs are old hat - so don't blame Nipper.
Wonder if Nipper, the Fox Terrier, had anything to do with it? Though I think it had more to do with dinosaur thinking back in the 90s when decisions to support actual CD disks, instead of downloading, was made. EMI suffered the same resistance to change and paid the price. Any decent dog would have know that Cylinders, Vinyl and CDs are old hat - so don't blame Nipper. Garrowby Turnoff
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6:37pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

MouseHouse wrote:
Purveyors of the unnecessary are facig a decade of har work. How many working people can afford to spend big money on fancy fripperies at places like Mulberry Hall? Barnitts sells all you need for the kitchen (and elsewhere) at better prices.

I do feel very sorry for those losing their jobs having said all that.
Barnitts are not inexpensive, but they do sell an amazing range of necessary items totally different to Mulberry Hall, whose image is high end quality.
I do suspect that Mulberry Hall marketing strategy needs attention.I doubt they have a representative sample exhibition in York's new 5star hotel,or that they have appropriate publicity material on the Net or in the Tourist Bureau . Their website is one of the dreariest I have seen in a long time with just one long list of stock.categories, - boring in the extreme!Compare this with Amazons marketing strategy and get some innovators on board, any age so long as they have imagination and energy!.
[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote: Purveyors of the unnecessary are facig a decade of har work. How many working people can afford to spend big money on fancy fripperies at places like Mulberry Hall? Barnitts sells all you need for the kitchen (and elsewhere) at better prices. I do feel very sorry for those losing their jobs having said all that.[/p][/quote]Barnitts are not inexpensive, but they do sell an amazing range of necessary items totally different to Mulberry Hall, whose image is high end quality. I do suspect that Mulberry Hall marketing strategy needs attention.I doubt they have a representative sample exhibition in York's new 5star hotel,or that they have appropriate publicity material on the Net or in the Tourist Bureau . Their website is one of the dreariest I have seen in a long time with just one long list of stock.categories, - boring in the extreme!Compare this with Amazons marketing strategy and get some innovators on board, any age so long as they have imagination and energy!. Older Sometimes Wiser
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7:04pm Tue 15 Jan 13

yorkborn66 says...

“Sounds” like “His Masters Voice “ image originally from a painting, has become muted. Another casualty of the digital and Internet age.
I cannot see how the administrators can change market trends.
As for Mulberry Hall, my own opinion is it sold very expensive items and was unable to compete with Internet sites with lower overheads.
For those employees that are loosing their jobs, I do hope you are not put into the same category as scroungers that some posters on here constantly post when you have to sign on.
“Sounds” like “His Masters Voice “ image originally from a painting, has become muted. Another casualty of the digital and Internet age. I cannot see how the administrators can change market trends. As for Mulberry Hall, my own opinion is it sold very expensive items and was unable to compete with Internet sites with lower overheads. For those employees that are loosing their jobs, I do hope you are not put into the same category as scroungers that some posters on here constantly post when you have to sign on. yorkborn66
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7:06pm Tue 15 Jan 13

HRH Lady Muck says...

From York Press: "Because of its setting in an historic building, Mulberry Hall also faced particularly big increases in costs including buildings maintenance, lighting and heating, and rent and business rates, as well as additional increases in National Insurance."
I sympathise as this is all true, people over look these hidden factors.
Parking continues to be a problem in York and I can see why people opt to shop out of town. I would visit York frequently if parking wasn't the issue.
I also have to add Mulberry Hall is a fabulous store that I always favour.
From York Press: "Because of its setting in an historic building, Mulberry Hall also faced particularly big increases in costs including buildings maintenance, lighting and heating, and rent and business rates, as well as additional increases in National Insurance." I sympathise as this is all true, people over look these hidden factors. Parking continues to be a problem in York and I can see why people opt to shop out of town. I would visit York frequently if parking wasn't the issue. I also have to add Mulberry Hall is a fabulous store that I always favour. HRH Lady Muck
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7:47pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Micklegate says...

The Press writes some rubbish, but this is crazy - a big story on the fact that about three people will be laid off is crazy. It's a massive shame for the individuals but I cannot believe they are treating this as such a story. On this basis when Aviva/council/CPP/Ne
stle next announce a change in the usual dozens they announce The Press should do a full week of nothing but!

Also several comments are talking about Mulberry Hall in the past tense! It's merely predictably tough trading and 90% of the workforce UNAFFECTED!!
The Press writes some rubbish, but this is crazy - a big story on the fact that about three people will be laid off is crazy. It's a massive shame for the individuals but I cannot believe they are treating this as such a story. On this basis when Aviva/council/CPP/Ne stle next announce a change in the usual dozens they announce The Press should do a full week of nothing but! Also several comments are talking about Mulberry Hall in the past tense! It's merely predictably tough trading and 90% of the workforce UNAFFECTED!! Micklegate
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7:57pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Woody G Mellor says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
dsom73 wrote:
For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.
What is the opposite of "that"?
This.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dsom73[/bold] wrote: For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.[/p][/quote]What is the opposite of "that"?[/p][/quote]This. Woody G Mellor
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8:49pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Got a life says...

I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre?
I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre? Got a life
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9:17pm Tue 15 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really. nearlyman
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9:34pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Rosieposie says...

Sad for those losing their jobs, however last year I wanted a specific nutcracker, mulberry halls site was dreadful so I ordered it from Germany. Money wasn't the issue convenience was. However they are very expensive and have made their exclusivity a divisive thing which makes it a stilted shopping experience. I used to love the dining warehouse and spent a fair bit in there, now I shop online it isn't the parking just the convenience. They didn't get to the Internet fast enough...if they are at all.
Sad for those losing their jobs, however last year I wanted a specific nutcracker, mulberry halls site was dreadful so I ordered it from Germany. Money wasn't the issue convenience was. However they are very expensive and have made their exclusivity a divisive thing which makes it a stilted shopping experience. I used to love the dining warehouse and spent a fair bit in there, now I shop online it isn't the parking just the convenience. They didn't get to the Internet fast enough...if they are at all. Rosieposie
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9:37pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Digeorge says...

Barnitts and Mulberry Hall two different opposite ends of the spectrum.

Last time I went to Mulberry Hall was for a wedding gift! Snoberry value. And if Mrs DiGeorge hasn't got a job that used to pay for such luxuries, then I am sure there are many on our posh Estate in York that are similar!

I also used to buy other things there as well but given I haven't got a job then there isn't the spare cash to go around!

And with the likes of Tesco selling Denby pottery at 1/2 price and also John Lewis etc having a good internet base.
Barnitts and Mulberry Hall two different opposite ends of the spectrum. Last time I went to Mulberry Hall was for a wedding gift! Snoberry value. And if Mrs DiGeorge hasn't got a job that used to pay for such luxuries, then I am sure there are many on our posh Estate in York that are similar! I also used to buy other things there as well but given I haven't got a job then there isn't the spare cash to go around! And with the likes of Tesco selling Denby pottery at 1/2 price and also John Lewis etc having a good internet base. Digeorge
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10:00pm Tue 15 Jan 13

nomadic85 says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
I'm afraid to say it but it's true. My whole family used to shop in there for bits and bats. The younger ones loved the gadgets and stuff for the kitchen, while the older members had shopped there for years for all sorts. Also regular visitors to the excellent coffee shop above. None of us go in now, and it's all since the attack on the community stadium
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]I'm afraid to say it but it's true. My whole family used to shop in there for bits and bats. The younger ones loved the gadgets and stuff for the kitchen, while the older members had shopped there for years for all sorts. Also regular visitors to the excellent coffee shop above. None of us go in now, and it's all since the attack on the community stadium nomadic85
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11:06pm Tue 15 Jan 13

HRH Lady Muck says...

Got a life wrote:
I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre?
We do not need another tax.
[quote][p][bold]Got a life[/bold] wrote: I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre?[/p][/quote]We do not need another tax. HRH Lady Muck
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11:56pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Got a life says...

HRH Lady Muck wrote:
Got a life wrote:
I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre?
We do not need another tax.
I think we do!
[quote][p][bold]HRH Lady Muck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Got a life[/bold] wrote: I have no interest in York City FC, however as a resident of this wonderful city I feel sorry for the staff who are redundant. Today we've seen the loss of HMV no doubt due to mis management but I'm sure largely down to the internet. Mulberry Hall will become a reference library for those whising to buy online and seek better deals from suppliers without the overheads of high street retailers. Perhaps its time for the goverment to look at making an online tax on web based retailers (Amazon) to protect the high street and create a level playing field. Perhaps its also time for York council to reduce/scrap parking charges in the city centre?[/p][/quote]We do not need another tax.[/p][/quote]I think we do! Got a life
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12:32am Wed 16 Jan 13

HRH Lady Muck says...

Then you make a voluntary tax payment.
Then you make a voluntary tax payment. HRH Lady Muck
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3:28am Wed 16 Jan 13

PhilipInYork says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you. PhilipInYork
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3:59am Wed 16 Jan 13

MrsMaud says...

July 6th 2012 visited Mulberry Hall after emailing their Wedding list co-ordinator and exploring the idea of setting up a wedding list.

The shop was empty, staff were either standing around or attending to various other things -ie- not much. No one made eye contact with either my husband to be, nor myself.

We left the shop and asked for gifts elsewhere.

To compete in this day and age staff need to have superior sales skills and NOT ignore potential customers walking through the door.

The Wedding co-ordinator emailed me again asking about my wedding list, to be fair I couldn't be bothered to reply, just as they couldn't be bothered to even ask if I required any help, when indeed I did.

That same week I let rip in Fenwicks in the handbag department as a member of staff was snatching bags off the shelves and repositioning them away from me as soon as I put them down. My words to her manager were "No wonder retail on the high street is in decline"
July 6th 2012 visited Mulberry Hall after emailing their Wedding list co-ordinator and exploring the idea of setting up a wedding list. The shop was empty, staff were either standing around or attending to various other things -ie- not much. No one made eye contact with either my husband to be, nor myself. We left the shop and asked for gifts elsewhere. To compete in this day and age staff need to have superior sales skills and NOT ignore potential customers walking through the door. The Wedding co-ordinator emailed me again asking about my wedding list, to be fair I couldn't be bothered to reply, just as they couldn't be bothered to even ask if I required any help, when indeed I did. That same week I let rip in Fenwicks in the handbag department as a member of staff was snatching bags off the shelves and repositioning them away from me as soon as I put them down. My words to her manager were "No wonder retail on the high street is in decline" MrsMaud
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6:52am Wed 16 Jan 13

Paul Meoff says...

PhilipInYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
If he was from York he would realise York City have to move forward in leaps and bounds to become third rate.
[quote][p][bold]PhilipInYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.[/p][/quote]If he was from York he would realise York City have to move forward in leaps and bounds to become third rate. Paul Meoff
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7:41am Wed 16 Jan 13

duffy says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
What comes around goes around, people have long memories and his attack against much needed community facilities for the residents of York was not forgotten by many.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]What comes around goes around, people have long memories and his attack against much needed community facilities for the residents of York was not forgotten by many. duffy
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8:50am Wed 16 Jan 13

Woody G Mellor says...

PhilipInYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not??
[quote][p][bold]PhilipInYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.[/p][/quote]Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not?? Woody G Mellor
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8:51am Wed 16 Jan 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Paul Meoff wrote:
PhilipInYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
If he was from York he would realise York City have to move forward in leaps and bounds to become third rate.
Lol!!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Meoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PhilipInYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.[/p][/quote]If he was from York he would realise York City have to move forward in leaps and bounds to become third rate.[/p][/quote]Lol!! Woody G Mellor
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8:58am Wed 16 Jan 13

The Great Buda says...

nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it. The Great Buda
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4:04pm Wed 16 Jan 13

TerryYork says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
PhilipInYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not??
Woody G Mellor, aka Paul Meoff, and other various usernames is a Leeds fan living in York.

He's a real winner, isn't he just. "Lol'ing" to his own post says it all.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PhilipInYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.[/p][/quote]Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not??[/p][/quote]Woody G Mellor, aka Paul Meoff, and other various usernames is a Leeds fan living in York. He's a real winner, isn't he just. "Lol'ing" to his own post says it all. TerryYork
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6:07pm Wed 16 Jan 13

Coriolanus says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
dsom73 wrote:
For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.
What is the opposite of "that"?
This.
Actually, it's not that.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dsom73[/bold] wrote: For anyone that doesn't know me: I don't mean that, I mean the opposite of that.[/p][/quote]What is the opposite of "that"?[/p][/quote]This.[/p][/quote]Actually, it's not that. Coriolanus
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6:43pm Wed 16 Jan 13

duffy says...

TerryYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
PhilipInYork wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.
Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please!
You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.
Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not??
Woody G Mellor, aka Paul Meoff, and other various usernames is a Leeds fan living in York.

He's a real winner, isn't he just. "Lol'ing" to his own post says it all.
Yep, pretty sad.
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PhilipInYork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for the staff, but Sinclair's name is mud in York since his attack on York City FC.[/p][/quote]Oh take your childish comments and your third rate football team back to the Sport section please![/p][/quote]You're not from York, clearly - so this all has nothing to do with you.[/p][/quote]Actually I am from York. What makes you think I am not??[/p][/quote]Woody G Mellor, aka Paul Meoff, and other various usernames is a Leeds fan living in York. He's a real winner, isn't he just. "Lol'ing" to his own post says it all.[/p][/quote]Yep, pretty sad. duffy
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7:36pm Wed 16 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

The Great Buda wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York.
What have you ever done for York ?
Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York. What have you ever done for York ? Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop. nearlyman
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8:38pm Wed 16 Jan 13

duffy says...

nearlyman wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York.
What have you ever done for York ?
Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.
You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York. What have you ever done for York ? Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.[/p][/quote]You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views. duffy
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9:52pm Wed 16 Jan 13

HRH Lady Muck says...

MrsMaud wrote:
July 6th 2012 visited Mulberry Hall after emailing their Wedding list co-ordinator and exploring the idea of setting up a wedding list.

The shop was empty, staff were either standing around or attending to various other things -ie- not much. No one made eye contact with either my husband to be, nor myself.

We left the shop and asked for gifts elsewhere.

To compete in this day and age staff need to have superior sales skills and NOT ignore potential customers walking through the door.

The Wedding co-ordinator emailed me again asking about my wedding list, to be fair I couldn't be bothered to reply, just as they couldn't be bothered to even ask if I required any help, when indeed I did.

That same week I let rip in Fenwicks in the handbag department as a member of staff was snatching bags off the shelves and repositioning them away from me as soon as I put them down. My words to her manager were "No wonder retail on the high street is in decline"
This has also happened to me in both Mulberry Hall & Fenwicks. Customers do not want to be overwhelmed when they walk through the door, but they want to be noticed. Remember the most important person in Mulberry Hall and Fenwick's is not Mr Sinclair or Mr Fenwick it is the customer!
[quote][p][bold]MrsMaud[/bold] wrote: July 6th 2012 visited Mulberry Hall after emailing their Wedding list co-ordinator and exploring the idea of setting up a wedding list. The shop was empty, staff were either standing around or attending to various other things -ie- not much. No one made eye contact with either my husband to be, nor myself. We left the shop and asked for gifts elsewhere. To compete in this day and age staff need to have superior sales skills and NOT ignore potential customers walking through the door. The Wedding co-ordinator emailed me again asking about my wedding list, to be fair I couldn't be bothered to reply, just as they couldn't be bothered to even ask if I required any help, when indeed I did. That same week I let rip in Fenwicks in the handbag department as a member of staff was snatching bags off the shelves and repositioning them away from me as soon as I put them down. My words to her manager were "No wonder retail on the high street is in decline"[/p][/quote]This has also happened to me in both Mulberry Hall & Fenwicks. Customers do not want to be overwhelmed when they walk through the door, but they want to be noticed. Remember the most important person in Mulberry Hall and Fenwick's is not Mr Sinclair or Mr Fenwick it is the customer! HRH Lady Muck
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12:01am Thu 17 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

duffy wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York.
What have you ever done for York ?
Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.
You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views.
Other issues dear boy!
It would appear that the only other issue is the fact that he dared to disagree with a potentially dodgy out of town shopping development. Many other fans of York City are extremely uncomfortable with this scenario. In years to come you will no doubt pour your bile and vitriol on the McGill family for their attempts at securing a future for the football club and reclaiming some of their investment. Just a little small minded of you i fear.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York. What have you ever done for York ? Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.[/p][/quote]You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views.[/p][/quote]Other issues dear boy! It would appear that the only other issue is the fact that he dared to disagree with a potentially dodgy out of town shopping development. Many other fans of York City are extremely uncomfortable with this scenario. In years to come you will no doubt pour your bile and vitriol on the McGill family for their attempts at securing a future for the football club and reclaiming some of their investment. Just a little small minded of you i fear. nearlyman
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7:43am Thu 17 Jan 13

duffy says...

nearlyman wrote:
duffy wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York.
What have you ever done for York ?
Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.
You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views.
Other issues dear boy!
It would appear that the only other issue is the fact that he dared to disagree with a potentially dodgy out of town shopping development. Many other fans of York City are extremely uncomfortable with this scenario. In years to come you will no doubt pour your bile and vitriol on the McGill family for their attempts at securing a future for the football club and reclaiming some of their investment. Just a little small minded of you i fear.
I have never said a word against the McGills personaly. But then again don't let that stop you trying to back up your point of view with more insults. The number of posters on here no longer shopping at the store should be the main issue.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York. What have you ever done for York ? Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.[/p][/quote]You're completely missing the point that some posters are making. Its got nothing to do with envy and everything to do with other issues that left a very sour taste in the mouth of many York residents. The same people that were customers of this store for many years and would never set foot in it again. Simply insulting posters is hardly giving credibility to your views.[/p][/quote]Other issues dear boy! It would appear that the only other issue is the fact that he dared to disagree with a potentially dodgy out of town shopping development. Many other fans of York City are extremely uncomfortable with this scenario. In years to come you will no doubt pour your bile and vitriol on the McGill family for their attempts at securing a future for the football club and reclaiming some of their investment. Just a little small minded of you i fear.[/p][/quote]I have never said a word against the McGills personaly. But then again don't let that stop you trying to back up your point of view with more insults. The number of posters on here no longer shopping at the store should be the main issue. duffy
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9:54am Thu 17 Jan 13

The Great Buda says...

nearlyman wrote:
The Great Buda wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.
If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs.

Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.
You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York.
What have you ever done for York ?
Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.
The only vile person in this thread is you.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: What a nasty lot in this post you are. Taking delight in anyones difficulties is pretty low by any standard. If, as someone believes on here that, 'what goes round, comes round' , It will not be long before it comes round to you. Shame that its all hocus pocus really.[/p][/quote]If you'd bothered to read the thread, instead of jumping to inane conclusionsm, you'll see that nearly everyone is genuinly sorry for those losing their jobs. Unlike his staff; I doubt Mr Sinclair will be on JSA any time soon. He's made his bed in this City, its time he lied in it.[/p][/quote]You are clearly a vile person Great Buda, and seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder it would appear to be a potato. You and your ilk detest people such as Mr Sinclair for no other reason than envy.This city needs entrepreneurs like him. They provide employment for citizens in York. The fact that you rejoice when he has this sort of difficulty as if it was some sort of divine payback for past decisions is shameful. If, as you say, he will not be seeking JSA anytime soon then he is clearly financially secure. That being the case he doesn't need to take any risks with his capital,but, he does. Therefore, the only people who are suffering out of this situation are the working people who will have no doubt have been glad to have a job over many previous years of his investment in York. What have you ever done for York ? Answers on a postage stamp you nincompoop.[/p][/quote]The only vile person in this thread is you. The Great Buda
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12:58pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Theapplesarecoming says...

Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha Theapplesarecoming
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3:49pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Tug job says...

yorkborn66 wrote:
meme wrote: The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon
It depends on your point of view and situation. I have paid National Insurance for 30 years in full and apart from the odd check up, last time I saw a doctor was 10 years ago up to August last year. I have paid into a system that I hope will take care of my health if required. Now I need the NHS, it is bogged down with more patients than it can cope with. The NHS was never designed to accommodate the open border policy for members of the EU. I don’t criticise the doctors and nurses and all the different staff that are working extremely hard to try and make it work. I don’t wish to be bitter but why should I have to wait months to see a consultant? The same can also be said for the welfare state . As a country we cannot carry on like this.
The NHS is funded through taxation, not through national insurance. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant!
[quote][p][bold]yorkborn66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: The root cause of our financial problems in the UK started when we formed the welfare state and NHS. It was supposed to be a safety net for those who were struggling [a great idea] but its got right out of hand, everyone thinks they are due something for nothing and no politician of any colour has the nerve to do anything meaningful about it. Its not a safety net anymore but a 'right' for all and its not affordable It will be the downfall of the state and every politician/economist knows this but its political suicide to do anyhting about it so we blindly plough on to financial armageddon[/p][/quote]It depends on your point of view and situation. I have paid National Insurance for 30 years in full and apart from the odd check up, last time I saw a doctor was 10 years ago up to August last year. I have paid into a system that I hope will take care of my health if required. Now I need the NHS, it is bogged down with more patients than it can cope with. The NHS was never designed to accommodate the open border policy for members of the EU. I don’t criticise the doctors and nurses and all the different staff that are working extremely hard to try and make it work. I don’t wish to be bitter but why should I have to wait months to see a consultant? The same can also be said for the welfare state . As a country we cannot carry on like this.[/p][/quote]The NHS is funded through taxation, not through national insurance. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant! Tug job
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4:03pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Tug job says...

The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business.
The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business. Tug job
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6:34pm Thu 17 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

Theapplesarecoming wrote:
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.
[quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha[/p][/quote]I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors. nearlyman
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6:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

Tug job wrote:
The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business.
I suspect Mr Sinclair will be there long beyond the time that City have lived to rue the day they moved out of town. Perhaps you should offer him some Mr Fixit advice as you are obviously a captain of industry or an expert on the high street. Personally I do not see the draw of the goods he sells but people have been buying it for a very long time and I imagine they will in years to come.
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business.[/p][/quote]I suspect Mr Sinclair will be there long beyond the time that City have lived to rue the day they moved out of town. Perhaps you should offer him some Mr Fixit advice as you are obviously a captain of industry or an expert on the high street. Personally I do not see the draw of the goods he sells but people have been buying it for a very long time and I imagine they will in years to come. nearlyman
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11:29pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Theapplesarecoming says...

nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.
Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york!

however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds?

He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create

And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately,

You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward

without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now

the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha[/p][/quote]I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.[/p][/quote]Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york! however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds? He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately, You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying Theapplesarecoming
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7:07pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Dollybirdone says...

Prices in Mulberry Hall are not competitive in today's marketplace. The public want a quality product at a fair price. In regards to customer service at both Mulberry hall and barnitts it leaves a lot to be desired and for too long have depended on tourists and if in doubt use contempt as a marketing tool.
In regard toYork City Council they do not appear to understand how to sucessfully attract and keep quality businesses or cater for both toursis and locals. Business rates are through the roof as are parking charges, they left the few i.e Sinclair dictate and do not invest in the history enough. A tight rein on garish shop signs i.e should be stopped, Pavement, chicken and betting shops!!!
There is a lack of public seating overall and those sheds down Parliament street were an eyesore over Christmas really quite shocking. There is little thought out,quality investment and money is wasted on silly fripperies i.re hidden locations for fireworks, lighting up nothing etc. The festive lights pathetic York is a jewel but is being eroded by those elected officials without forward thinking sense in how to make quality investments and not just exploit the old.
Prices in Mulberry Hall are not competitive in today's marketplace. The public want a quality product at a fair price. In regards to customer service at both Mulberry hall and barnitts it leaves a lot to be desired and for too long have depended on tourists and if in doubt use contempt as a marketing tool. In regard toYork City Council they do not appear to understand how to sucessfully attract and keep quality businesses or cater for both toursis and locals. Business rates are through the roof as are parking charges, they left the few i.e Sinclair dictate and do not invest in the history enough. A tight rein on garish shop signs i.e should be stopped, Pavement, chicken and betting shops!!! There is a lack of public seating overall and those sheds down Parliament street were an eyesore over Christmas really quite shocking. There is little thought out,quality investment and money is wasted on silly fripperies i.re hidden locations for fireworks, lighting up nothing etc. The festive lights pathetic York is a jewel but is being eroded by those elected officials without forward thinking sense in how to make quality investments and not just exploit the old. Dollybirdone
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7:30pm Fri 18 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

Theapplesarecoming wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.
Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york!

however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds?

He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create

And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately,


You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward

without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now

the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying
You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst.
And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently.
[quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha[/p][/quote]I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.[/p][/quote]Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york! however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds? He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately, You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying[/p][/quote]You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst. And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently. nearlyman
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11:44am Sat 19 Jan 13

duffy says...

nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.
Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york!

however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds?

He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create

And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately,


You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward

without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now

the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying
You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst.
And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently.
Have you ever shopped in a John Lewis ? They are packed and price match. People come from miles around to shop there and many will never usually shop in York. There was an attempt to block all those new jobs for the residents of York.
Think about it ?
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha[/p][/quote]I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.[/p][/quote]Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york! however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds? He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately, You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying[/p][/quote]You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst. And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently.[/p][/quote]Have you ever shopped in a John Lewis ? They are packed and price match. People come from miles around to shop there and many will never usually shop in York. There was an attempt to block all those new jobs for the residents of York. Think about it ? duffy
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2:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

Time will reveal !
Time will reveal ! nearlyman
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4:31pm Sat 19 Jan 13

Hoofarted says...

This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest.

Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?
This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy? Hoofarted
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1:30am Sun 20 Jan 13

Malcolm says...

Much sympathies to those losing their jobs. People simply aren't spending, especially on the type of goods sold by Mulberry Hall.
Much sympathies to those losing their jobs. People simply aren't spending, especially on the type of goods sold by Mulberry Hall. Malcolm
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10:38am Sun 20 Jan 13

Theapplesarecoming says...

nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Theapplesarecoming wrote:
Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ?

I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha
I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.
Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york!

however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds?

He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create

And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately,


You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward

without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now

the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying
You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst.
And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently.
I don't despise posh people ,I just see things how they are
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Theapplesarecoming[/bold] wrote: Nearlyman with his posh way of writing and. Extreme support for Sinclair and his posh shop, coincidence ? I went in mulberry hall once but assumed me and the missus were too normal (or common if you like) for being in there and left quickly haha[/p][/quote]I am delighted to give extreme support to anyone who creates jobs in York regardless of poshness ! But I see its a problem for you if those people are not Bona Fide class warriors.[/p][/quote]Lets think about it though, yes this person has created jobs in york! however how many jobs would he have lost the public if he had got his wish and stopped the community stadium etc going ahead? Hundreds? He would have lost more jobs than he could possibly create And as for the mulberry hall shop . luxuries and slightly pointless treats arnt on anyones list now due to the horrid conditions put on us all lately, You want to stop and think about the fact you are supporting someone who has tried to stop creation of jobs and york moving forward without the new stadium that would mean an entire football club unemployed from directors to players as the land at bc is sold and we were only leant money to survive by the mgills as they will get it back in the sale of bc , without the new stadium york city would be gone now the jobs being created by the new shopping area , John Lewis etc go without saying[/p][/quote]You appear to be in dream land. Do you really believe that these new stores will not have an impact on city centre jobs.There will still be the same money being spent, just more stores to choose from. Inevitably it will impact on one or the other. And whichever comes off worse will need fewer staff. Only in socialist economics does money magically appear from nowhere or else it is obtained on the never never....and that bubble has well and truly burst. And whilst everyone is talking about uncompetitive prices....Has anyone browsed in John Lewis stores. Overpricing is mandatory ! M & S is hardly a budget shop. They must be shops for the posh people you despise so vehemently.[/p][/quote]I don't despise posh people ,I just see things how they are Theapplesarecoming
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3:06pm Sun 20 Jan 13

alan_music says...

Von_Dutch wrote:
My every sympathy with the poor staff who are going to lose their livelihood here. However Sinclair stating that parking charges are part of the reason is utter garbage - York is heaving with people and will continue to be so. You can barely move down Stonegate and nearby streets on a Saturday or the school holidays for the sheer amount of people. Parking is definitely NOT putting people off coming here. More likely his downturn in profits is due to his ridiculous prices for pottery frogs and other such tat...
spot on !
[quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: My every sympathy with the poor staff who are going to lose their livelihood here. However Sinclair stating that parking charges are part of the reason is utter garbage - York is heaving with people and will continue to be so. You can barely move down Stonegate and nearby streets on a Saturday or the school holidays for the sheer amount of people. Parking is definitely NOT putting people off coming here. More likely his downturn in profits is due to his ridiculous prices for pottery frogs and other such tat...[/p][/quote]spot on ! alan_music
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9:03pm Sun 20 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

Hoofarted wrote:
This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest.

Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?
Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments.
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?[/p][/quote]Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments. nearlyman
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11:14pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Mayorquimby says...

djtswilson wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!!
Getting what they deserve?

What a stupid, horrible and moronic comment. I'd guess that you aren't the sort of person that has had to put their everything into a family business to see it come close to failure. I call you out as a desk monkey for a large firm with no imagination or courage to stand on their own feet.

Choose your words wisely - if you ever take the plunge to start something for yourself, imagine how you would feel to read something like this.

djtswilson - whoever you are, I hope that you come to realise that whatever this business meant to you, it meant something more to the owners and employees.
[quote][p][bold]djtswilson[/bold] wrote: Absolutely ridiculous prices for supposed classic designs, all part of the snob culture which York can do without coupled with an atmosphere so miserable and unwelcoming by staff we were glad to leave. Maybe they are getting what they deserve.!!![/p][/quote]Getting what they deserve? What a stupid, horrible and moronic comment. I'd guess that you aren't the sort of person that has had to put their everything into a family business to see it come close to failure. I call you out as a desk monkey for a large firm with no imagination or courage to stand on their own feet. Choose your words wisely - if you ever take the plunge to start something for yourself, imagine how you would feel to read something like this. djtswilson - whoever you are, I hope that you come to realise that whatever this business meant to you, it meant something more to the owners and employees. Mayorquimby
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9:07am Mon 21 Jan 13

The Great Buda says...

Is this the same Adam "Job Creating" Sinclair who did everything he could to stop jobs being created at Coppergate II or is there another Adam Sinclair?
Is this the same Adam "Job Creating" Sinclair who did everything he could to stop jobs being created at Coppergate II or is there another Adam Sinclair? The Great Buda
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9:49am Mon 21 Jan 13

Hoofarted says...

nearlyman wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest.

Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?
Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments.
Let me expand this deeper for you, as you have clearly muddled how it was put.

1st: "This person is a convicted member of the Tory party" In general, conviction means a strong persuasion or belief. It also means the state of being convinced. The same applies to a person being convicted in their belief, that poor less fortunate people deserve their benefits cut.

2nd: The enormous house was indeed incorrect. It should have read as "enormous houses" Forgive me if i'm wrong but, is it not Christian teaching that state "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels)

3rd: You are correct, it is this childs father who now preached "The Eye of a Needle" Gospel. You would have thought a multimillionaire, multiple property owning preacher, would have taught his child the importance of these anti greed gospels. Politics of envy no. Politics of selfishness and preaching one thing and applying another, Yes!
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?[/p][/quote]Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments.[/p][/quote]Let me expand this deeper for you, as you have clearly muddled how it was put. 1st: "This person is a convicted member of the Tory party" In general, conviction means a strong persuasion or belief. It also means the state of being convinced. The same applies to a person being convicted in their belief, that poor less fortunate people deserve their benefits cut. 2nd: The enormous house was indeed incorrect. It should have read as "enormous houses" Forgive me if i'm wrong but, is it not Christian teaching that state "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels) 3rd: You are correct, it is this childs father who now preached "The Eye of a Needle" Gospel. You would have thought a multimillionaire, multiple property owning preacher, would have taught his child the importance of these anti greed gospels. Politics of envy no. Politics of selfishness and preaching one thing and applying another, Yes! Hoofarted
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1:37pm Mon 21 Jan 13

nearlyman says...

manic and anal then !...................
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manic and anal then !................... ...... nearlyman
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2:11pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Mayorquimby says...

Hoofarted wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest.

Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?
Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments.
Let me expand this deeper for you, as you have clearly muddled how it was put.

1st: "This person is a convicted member of the Tory party" In general, conviction means a strong persuasion or belief. It also means the state of being convinced. The same applies to a person being convicted in their belief, that poor less fortunate people deserve their benefits cut.

2nd: The enormous house was indeed incorrect. It should have read as "enormous houses" Forgive me if i'm wrong but, is it not Christian teaching that state "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels)

3rd: You are correct, it is this childs father who now preached "The Eye of a Needle" Gospel. You would have thought a multimillionaire, multiple property owning preacher, would have taught his child the importance of these anti greed gospels. Politics of envy no. Politics of selfishness and preaching one thing and applying another, Yes!
Are you seriously saying that people who are rich cannot be good?

A successful businessman who has employed many people in the city and added to the economy?

What have you ever done with your life to make you a suitable judge?
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?[/p][/quote]Clearly shown yourself up here. Maybe a member of the Tory party, which particular conviction did you have in mind ? Enormous house ? Multimillionaire ? Politics of envy once again methinks and correct me if i am wrong, but is it not Mr Sinclair senior who is a priest ....and a more sincere man you will struggle to find. Shame on you and your manic comments.[/p][/quote]Let me expand this deeper for you, as you have clearly muddled how it was put. 1st: "This person is a convicted member of the Tory party" In general, conviction means a strong persuasion or belief. It also means the state of being convinced. The same applies to a person being convicted in their belief, that poor less fortunate people deserve their benefits cut. 2nd: The enormous house was indeed incorrect. It should have read as "enormous houses" Forgive me if i'm wrong but, is it not Christian teaching that state "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (The eye of a needle" is part of a saying of Jesus recorded in the synoptic gospels) 3rd: You are correct, it is this childs father who now preached "The Eye of a Needle" Gospel. You would have thought a multimillionaire, multiple property owning preacher, would have taught his child the importance of these anti greed gospels. Politics of envy no. Politics of selfishness and preaching one thing and applying another, Yes![/p][/quote]Are you seriously saying that people who are rich cannot be good? A successful businessman who has employed many people in the city and added to the economy? What have you ever done with your life to make you a suitable judge? Mayorquimby
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4:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Micklegate wrote:
The Press writes some rubbish, but this is crazy - a big story on the fact that about three people will be laid off is crazy. It's a massive shame for the individuals but I cannot believe they are treating this as such a story. On this basis when Aviva/council/CPP/Ne stle next announce a change in the usual dozens they announce The Press should do a full week of nothing but! Also several comments are talking about Mulberry Hall in the past tense! It's merely predictably tough trading and 90% of the workforce UNAFFECTED!!
What about last week's low-key coverage of the Rail Minister, Simon Burns visit to the site of the new Network Rail £36m development ? This will provide up to 480 jobs and there wasn't even a comment from the Council ? WHY ?

This is a massive investment in York, bring jobs and growth, yet Council Leaders Alexander and England were too busy gallavanting to Paris (a needless costly excursion) to celebrate a bike race starting in York for one day - big deal, or NOT !

Doesn't this show that York doesn't need James Alexander and Kersten England ? They do nowt for York, it's all about them. their ego's and their CV's !!!

Time to get off Adam Sinclair's back - he's a Yorkie, who's family have provided jobs and contributed to York's economy for years. That's loyalty. Show some respect.
[quote][p][bold]Micklegate[/bold] wrote: The Press writes some rubbish, but this is crazy - a big story on the fact that about three people will be laid off is crazy. It's a massive shame for the individuals but I cannot believe they are treating this as such a story. On this basis when Aviva/council/CPP/Ne stle next announce a change in the usual dozens they announce The Press should do a full week of nothing but! Also several comments are talking about Mulberry Hall in the past tense! It's merely predictably tough trading and 90% of the workforce UNAFFECTED!![/p][/quote]What about last week's low-key coverage of the Rail Minister, Simon Burns visit to the site of the new Network Rail £36m development ? This will provide up to 480 jobs and there wasn't even a comment from the Council ? WHY ? This is a massive investment in York, bring jobs and growth, yet Council Leaders Alexander and England were too busy gallavanting to Paris (a needless costly excursion) to celebrate a bike race starting in York for one day - big deal, or NOT ! Doesn't this show that York doesn't need James Alexander and Kersten England ? They do nowt for York, it's all about them. their ego's and their CV's !!! Time to get off Adam Sinclair's back - he's a Yorkie, who's family have provided jobs and contributed to York's economy for years. That's loyalty. Show some respect. Scarlet Pimpernel
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4:57pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Is this the same Adam "Job Creating" Sinclair who did everything he could to stop jobs being created at Coppergate II or is there another Adam Sinclair?
His family business has been around in York for decades, and that gives him the right to protect it, and oppose whatever he considers might be detrimental to their business. Nowt wrong with that. We would all do the same in his position.

Adam Sinclair's family's loyalty to York should be respected. The knockers who have been here five minutes and think they own the place should back off. Yorkies should stick together and tell the interlopers to put up, shut up, or go away !
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Is this the same Adam "Job Creating" Sinclair who did everything he could to stop jobs being created at Coppergate II or is there another Adam Sinclair?[/p][/quote]His family business has been around in York for decades, and that gives him the right to protect it, and oppose whatever he considers might be detrimental to their business. Nowt wrong with that. We would all do the same in his position. Adam Sinclair's family's loyalty to York should be respected. The knockers who have been here five minutes and think they own the place should back off. Yorkies should stick together and tell the interlopers to put up, shut up, or go away ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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5:07pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Hoofarted wrote:
This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?
Nothing to rival the bitter envy and prejudice of a little left wing nobody.

A much respected, conservative, multi-millionaire businessman who did great things for York and it's people, who became a man of the cloth. Much to be respected for.

Wasn't Joseph Rowntree a multi-multi-milliona
ire businessman and very religious too ?

Hoofarted - the name says it all - what a stinker !
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: This person is a convicted member of the tory party. He lives in an enormous house and is a multimillionaire who has now become a priest. Which of these roles smacks of hypocrisy?[/p][/quote]Nothing to rival the bitter envy and prejudice of a little left wing nobody. A much respected, conservative, multi-millionaire businessman who did great things for York and it's people, who became a man of the cloth. Much to be respected for. Wasn't Joseph Rowntree a multi-multi-milliona ire businessman and very religious too ? Hoofarted - the name says it all - what a stinker ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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5:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

I wish Mulbery Hall, it's staff and it's York owners all the best for the future.

A long-standing, respected and much loved York business, in one of the most attractive buildings in the most famous shopping street in Europe !

Good luck Adam Sinclair, and keep up the good work !
I wish Mulbery Hall, it's staff and it's York owners all the best for the future. A long-standing, respected and much loved York business, in one of the most attractive buildings in the most famous shopping street in Europe ! Good luck Adam Sinclair, and keep up the good work ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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10:50am Tue 22 Jan 13

Tug job says...

nearlyman wrote:
Tug job wrote: The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business.
I suspect Mr Sinclair will be there long beyond the time that City have lived to rue the day they moved out of town. Perhaps you should offer him some Mr Fixit advice as you are obviously a captain of industry or an expert on the high street. Personally I do not see the draw of the goods he sells but people have been buying it for a very long time and I imagine they will in years to come.
Hi there nearlyman, haven't looked at this page for a few days (I actually have a life, rather than living it vicariously through the YEP!) hence my delay in responding. I do not profess to be either. However, if you look at the first paragraph of the YEP article, this clearly states that the lay offs have come about because of a "difficult trading" period. Why has trading been difficult? What do other businesses do in similar circumstances? They review their business methods - customer base, stock/product, demand, delivery and operation, understanding competitors, etc, and where necessary, they change these. This standard approach is used by many successful businesses and brands and is advocated not by solely by me (I am merely an ordinary member of the public expressing my opinions on the web site of a provincial newspaper) but by the CBI, the BRC and others. I submit this standard approach to business is both sensible and practical. Your posting also hints at complacency - another dangerous trait that has led to the failure of many well-established businesses over the years. I am sure Mr Sinclair is literate and has business advisers on hand to try and help him turn things around. Good luck to him, but I sincerely hope he can refrain from further alienating and disregarding his customer base.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: The key to this is very poor business acumen and, for that, Mr Sinclair has to take sole responsibility. He has not adjusted to changes in shopping habits, he has failed to diversify his stock to meet the changing demands of customers, his efforts to create a brand presence at the McArthurGlen outlet have backfired, and he has aliented a fair proportion of his customer base through making a series of inaccurate, misleading and unfounded claims about the proposals for the Community Stadium. Taken together, one begins to wonder if this has been an intentional ploy to run down a previously successful business. I am truly sorry for those members of staff who will lose their jobs but there is only one person responsible for this and that is Mr Sinclair himself. No chips on my shoulders, it's all down to being a poorly run business.[/p][/quote]I suspect Mr Sinclair will be there long beyond the time that City have lived to rue the day they moved out of town. Perhaps you should offer him some Mr Fixit advice as you are obviously a captain of industry or an expert on the high street. Personally I do not see the draw of the goods he sells but people have been buying it for a very long time and I imagine they will in years to come.[/p][/quote]Hi there nearlyman, haven't looked at this page for a few days (I actually have a life, rather than living it vicariously through the YEP!) hence my delay in responding. I do not profess to be either. However, if you look at the first paragraph of the YEP article, this clearly states that the lay offs have come about because of a "difficult trading" period. Why has trading been difficult? What do other businesses do in similar circumstances? They review their business methods - customer base, stock/product, demand, delivery and operation, understanding competitors, etc, and where necessary, they change these. This standard approach is used by many successful businesses and brands and is advocated not by solely by me (I am merely an ordinary member of the public expressing my opinions on the web site of a provincial newspaper) but by the CBI, the BRC and others. I submit this standard approach to business is both sensible and practical. Your posting also hints at complacency - another dangerous trait that has led to the failure of many well-established businesses over the years. I am sure Mr Sinclair is literate and has business advisers on hand to try and help him turn things around. Good luck to him, but I sincerely hope he can refrain from further alienating and disregarding his customer base. Tug job
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