Anger over delays on early evening economy plans

Cllr John Galvin, in the Coppergate Centre, is angry with the delay in the evening economy boost plans

Cllr John Galvin, in the Coppergate Centre, is angry with the delay in the evening economy boost plans

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PLANS to breathe new life into the early evening economy of York's city centre have not progressed quickly enough, one of the men who helped spearhead them has said.

In spring this year, councillors from all parties came up with a series of proposals to combat the "teatime lull" in city-centre trade and lengthen York's tourist day.

The proposals suggested a pilot scheme to create early-evening family entertainment in the Coppergate centre, to encourage families to stay in the city after traditional shop closing time, and steer the night time economy away from drinking culture.

In May, the corporate scrutiny chairman Cllr John Galvin presented the recommendations to the cabinet and asked that the pilot scheme be started in early July but that target was missed.

He said: "I am extremely disappointed with the progress, which is indicative of how seriously the council takes the scrutiny process."

Council officials said they were working hard to get support for the project from businesses, but said the July date was not written into the reports and has not been their aim.

Cllr Galvin called the delay a snub for the hard work of councillors, specialist officers and the scrutiny process.

Katie Stewart, the council's head of economic development, said work was going on behind the scenes to launch the pilot scheme and other ideas to liven up the city between 5pm and 8pm.

She added: “We’re working to establish what the existing appetite from businesses and the cultural sector is surrounding the recommendations from the council’s Corporate Scrutiny and Management Committee, as the driving factor behind whether these recommendations are able to be progressed.

She said more details, including funding, should be presented to Cabinet in the coming weeks.

Cllr Galvin rubbished the explanation as "an excuse", saying he did not want to criticise the staff who worked on the scrutiny reports but he was angry an in-depth review had not borne fruit this summer.

Sue Anderson- Brown, centre manager, Coppergate Shopping Centre said: “As a centre we are committed to supporting our retailers and to do this it is important to us that we work closely with York City Council. We will continue to do this as they look into options to support the evening economy in York.

“As the shopping centre in York city centre we are always happy to support council initiatives that benefit the city as a whole.”

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11:11am Thu 7 Aug 14

Frank Pizzaface says...

All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents
All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents Frank Pizzaface
  • Score: 27

11:16am Thu 7 Aug 14

Knavesmire view says...

Frank Pizzaface wrote:
All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents
But on the flip side, anything that can be done to encourage the evening/night economy away from drink culture will benefit the residents.
[quote][p][bold]Frank Pizzaface[/bold] wrote: All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents[/p][/quote]But on the flip side, anything that can be done to encourage the evening/night economy away from drink culture will benefit the residents. Knavesmire view
  • Score: 38

11:49am Thu 7 Aug 14

goatman says...

Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week.
Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week. goatman
  • Score: 36

11:59am Thu 7 Aug 14

calmdownyork says...

Frank Pizzaface wrote:
All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents
Over 20% of residents jobs are within tourism and hospitality industry. Their incomes in turn support thousands of other jobs within the local economy. In any case, nobody said that residents couldn't enjoy the evening economy too. If you don't like it, live somewhere else.
[quote][p][bold]Frank Pizzaface[/bold] wrote: All this city thinks about is tourists, NEVER anything for the residents[/p][/quote]Over 20% of residents jobs are within tourism and hospitality industry. Their incomes in turn support thousands of other jobs within the local economy. In any case, nobody said that residents couldn't enjoy the evening economy too. If you don't like it, live somewhere else. calmdownyork
  • Score: 20

12:59pm Thu 7 Aug 14

X5019c says...

What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.
What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty. X5019c
  • Score: -2

1:17pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

The problem is that the residents in question have an old-fashioned 9-to-5 mentality: those who work in York can't wait to leave the city centre because their journey home takes so long.... because the trafffic's so bad.

It's catch 22: offer something for them to stay in the centre after work (like bigger cities do) or sort out the interminable gridlock of York streets so they don't have to worry what time they leave the centre because it'll always be easy to get home.

In fact, there wouldn't be the gridlock if fewer people drove. And if they didn't drive and could rely on affordable, regular public transport, they could stay in York for a drink after work. And then they'd think "Why not have something to eat as well, or let's go and see something...?", thus reinvigorating the evening economy.

Get rid of cars, improve the buses and bob's your uncle.
The problem is that the residents in question have an old-fashioned 9-to-5 mentality: those who work in York can't wait to leave the city centre because their journey home takes so long.... because the trafffic's so bad. It's catch 22: offer something for them to stay in the centre after work (like bigger cities do) or sort out the interminable gridlock of York streets so they don't have to worry what time they leave the centre because it'll always be easy to get home. In fact, there wouldn't be the gridlock if fewer people drove. And if they didn't drive and could rely on affordable, regular public transport, they could stay in York for a drink after work. And then they'd think "Why not have something to eat as well, or let's go and see something...?", thus reinvigorating the evening economy. Get rid of cars, improve the buses and bob's your uncle. Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 4

1:29pm Thu 7 Aug 14

buffaloboro says...

I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York.
I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something.
I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York. I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something. buffaloboro
  • Score: 11

1:54pm Thu 7 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

buffaloboro wrote:
I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York.
I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something.
Where in France and what sort of things?
[quote][p][bold]buffaloboro[/bold] wrote: I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York. I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something.[/p][/quote]Where in France and what sort of things? eeoodares
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Thu 7 Aug 14

PR Willey says...

I think York could do "lots" on an evening to encourage residents and tourists into the city, however.........we would need an Act of God to guarantee us sunshine for about 4 months of the year!
I think York could do "lots" on an evening to encourage residents and tourists into the city, however.........we would need an Act of God to guarantee us sunshine for about 4 months of the year! PR Willey
  • Score: 7

2:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Kiwi2 says...

goatman wrote:
Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week.
Late night shopping one evening - as other cities our size do - could be a good thing for tourists, residents, and people who work in the city (who then have the option of doing a bit of shopping on the way home). It's frustrating to have to either rush around at lunchtime, or make an extra trip in on a weekend. Mix in a few coffee shops staying open later too ...
[quote][p][bold]goatman[/bold] wrote: Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week.[/p][/quote]Late night shopping one evening - as other cities our size do - could be a good thing for tourists, residents, and people who work in the city (who then have the option of doing a bit of shopping on the way home). It's frustrating to have to either rush around at lunchtime, or make an extra trip in on a weekend. Mix in a few coffee shops staying open later too ... Kiwi2
  • Score: 13

2:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Big Bad Wolf says...

X5019c wrote:
What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.
The "poor people" who live above Coppergate? Are there many private homes that overlook Coppergate? If there are any I would imagine they are pretty used to hearing people milling about?
[quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.[/p][/quote]The "poor people" who live above Coppergate? Are there many private homes that overlook Coppergate? If there are any I would imagine they are pretty used to hearing people milling about? Big Bad Wolf
  • Score: 19

3:34pm Thu 7 Aug 14

JamesUK says...

It would help if the council hadn't taken away free residents parking permits for use after 6pm. I no longer use York in the evenings as I am not going to pay for a parking permit.

I hope the ouncil will see sense and bring back free parking for residents.
It would help if the council hadn't taken away free residents parking permits for use after 6pm. I no longer use York in the evenings as I am not going to pay for a parking permit. I hope the ouncil will see sense and bring back free parking for residents. JamesUK
  • Score: 19

4:22pm Thu 7 Aug 14

yorkie0802 says...

How about more concerts at the barbican which for the biggest part of the year is closed!
How about more concerts at the barbican which for the biggest part of the year is closed! yorkie0802
  • Score: 14

5:10pm Thu 7 Aug 14

meme says...

Continental style cafes in the squares
live music in the streets/parks starting at 6.00
free tours led by volunteers of interesting things
street art in Little Stonegate, like the ice fair, commissioned from York Art students and performers at set times.
custom car/bike shows in main squares and fro the cyclists stunt cycling
How about bringing back open water swimming in Ouse
triathlons in the centre of the City using things like river from steps for hills plenty of bigger buildings to utilise to create difficulty as well as the Ings to use.
I was in prague and every public building every night had some form of free concert from classical to modern..........what about the Guildhall .........its perfect for that type of thing
There will be lots of people with lots of interests which would attract people to York and NOT just tourists

Come on everyone throw up ideas no matter how bizarre as our council will never think outside of the box unless prompted
Continental style cafes in the squares live music in the streets/parks starting at 6.00 free tours led by volunteers of interesting things [and York has lots] street art in Little Stonegate, like the ice fair, commissioned from York Art students and performers at set times. custom car/bike shows in main squares and fro the cyclists stunt cycling How about bringing back open water swimming in Ouse triathlons in the centre of the City using things like river from steps for hills plenty of bigger buildings to utilise to create difficulty as well as the Ings to use. I was in prague and every public building every night had some form of free concert from classical to modern..........what about the Guildhall .........its perfect for that type of thing There will be lots of people with lots of interests which would attract people to York and NOT just tourists Come on everyone throw up ideas no matter how bizarre as our council will never think outside of the box unless prompted meme
  • Score: 27

6:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Tom Cobley says...

Thanks for all your comments much appreciated
John Galvin
Thanks for all your comments much appreciated John Galvin Tom Cobley
  • Score: -1

8:10pm Thu 7 Aug 14

MistressMiddlethorpe says...

I think The Press needs to buy a new calendar since the date stamp reads:

"First published 11:08 Friday 7 August 2014 in News
Last updated 11:11 Friday 7 August 2014
by Victoria Prest"

7 August 2014 happens to be a THURSDAY every else in York other than the Press News Desk !
I think The Press needs to buy a new calendar since the date stamp reads: "First published 11:08 Friday 7 August 2014 in News Last updated 11:11 Friday 7 August 2014 by Victoria Prest" 7 August 2014 happens to be a THURSDAY every else in York other than the Press News Desk ! MistressMiddlethorpe
  • Score: 4

8:17pm Thu 7 Aug 14

MistressMiddlethorpe says...

I cannot understand how a Tory councillor is berating the Council for not spending money when the only organisations funding it should be those benefiting from it, namely the businesses in Coppergate.

It is not the Council's job to spend cash-strapped resources in an area of the city dominated by large corporate retailers with far greater resources than our Council. All the Council should be doing is facilitating the enterprise by ensuring any planning and H&S approvals are progressed promptly through the relevant council departments, perhaps at a slightly reduced rate - nothing more.
I cannot understand how a Tory councillor is berating the Council for not spending money when the only organisations funding it should be those benefiting from it, namely the businesses in Coppergate. It is not the Council's job to spend cash-strapped resources in an area of the city dominated by large corporate retailers with far greater resources than our Council. All the Council should be doing is facilitating the enterprise by ensuring any planning and H&S approvals are progressed promptly through the relevant council departments, perhaps at a slightly reduced rate - nothing more. MistressMiddlethorpe
  • Score: 8

9:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Martin true Viking says...

You really believe that this council is capable of organising anything. Put it in the hands of the private sector for example the organisers of Apollo festival or YO1 or the music management students at Access to Music but not the council for gods sake. Funny though isn't it the council has spent years clearing people out of the city against the better wishes and views of the people who live here and now they've realised yet again they were wrong.
You really believe that this council is capable of organising anything. Put it in the hands of the private sector for example the organisers of Apollo festival or YO1 or the music management students at Access to Music but not the council for gods sake. Funny though isn't it the council has spent years clearing people out of the city against the better wishes and views of the people who live here and now they've realised yet again they were wrong. Martin true Viking
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

quandaryqueen says...

X5019c wrote:
What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.
Those 'poor people' chose to live in the centre of town, knowing that town centres will be busy and noisy. I've as much sympathy for them as I have for those 'poor people' who chose to live in the country side and then complain about the cockerel crowing too early in the morning or the cows mooing too loudly in the fields. and producing a good old-fashioned 'natural aroma'
[quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.[/p][/quote]Those 'poor people' chose to live in the centre of town, knowing that town centres will be busy and noisy. I've as much sympathy for them as I have for those 'poor people' who chose to live in the country side and then complain about the cockerel crowing too early in the morning or the cows mooing too loudly in the fields. and producing a good old-fashioned 'natural aroma' quandaryqueen
  • Score: 12

9:45pm Thu 7 Aug 14

buffaloboro says...

eeoodares wrote:
buffaloboro wrote:
I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York.
I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something.
Where in France and what sort of things?
Hi, We toured around the SW of France a few years ago - a lot of the towns had concerts , street festivals et cetera going on .
I was back in York in July ( stayed in a hotel & spent a fair bit of food , shopping et cetera ) & there was nothing going on that I could see.
As much as some people don't like the fact that York is a tourism hotspot it appears to me that the reality is that a lot of jobs rely upon this sector .
With this in mind I do think that the city needs to spend hard cash researching what works elsewhere & what would work in York during this 'dead zone.'
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buffaloboro[/bold] wrote: I think it is naïve to dismiss the monies that tourism brings to York. I no longer live there but came back to visit this July. I have a young child & I'd agree there is very little to do in the early evening & compared to similar towns in France et cetera York needs to add a little something.[/p][/quote]Where in France and what sort of things?[/p][/quote]Hi, We toured around the SW of France a few years ago - a lot of the towns had concerts , street festivals et cetera going on . I was back in York in July ( stayed in a hotel & spent a fair bit of food , shopping et cetera ) & there was nothing going on that I could see. As much as some people don't like the fact that York is a tourism hotspot it appears to me that the reality is that a lot of jobs rely upon this sector . With this in mind I do think that the city needs to spend hard cash researching what works elsewhere & what would work in York during this 'dead zone.' buffaloboro
  • Score: 4

10:04pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

meme wrote:
Continental style cafes in the squares
live music in the streets/parks starting at 6.00
free tours led by volunteers of interesting things
street art in Little Stonegate, like the ice fair, commissioned from York Art students and performers at set times.
custom car/bike shows in main squares and fro the cyclists stunt cycling
How about bringing back open water swimming in Ouse
triathlons in the centre of the City using things like river from steps for hills plenty of bigger buildings to utilise to create difficulty as well as the Ings to use.
I was in prague and every public building every night had some form of free concert from classical to modern..........what about the Guildhall .........its perfect for that type of thing
There will be lots of people with lots of interests which would attract people to York and NOT just tourists

Come on everyone throw up ideas no matter how bizarre as our council will never think outside of the box unless prompted
Well how about that?
When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting...
When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post.
Well said!

Good solution.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Continental style cafes in the squares live music in the streets/parks starting at 6.00 free tours led by volunteers of interesting things [and York has lots] street art in Little Stonegate, like the ice fair, commissioned from York Art students and performers at set times. custom car/bike shows in main squares and fro the cyclists stunt cycling How about bringing back open water swimming in Ouse triathlons in the centre of the City using things like river from steps for hills plenty of bigger buildings to utilise to create difficulty as well as the Ings to use. I was in prague and every public building every night had some form of free concert from classical to modern..........what about the Guildhall .........its perfect for that type of thing There will be lots of people with lots of interests which would attract people to York and NOT just tourists Come on everyone throw up ideas no matter how bizarre as our council will never think outside of the box unless prompted[/p][/quote]Well how about that? When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting... When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post. Well said! Good solution. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 3

10:10pm Thu 7 Aug 14

mack says...

Just get the shops open until 8 or even 9pm. There are plenty of folks wandering about the streets in the evening with nowhere to go except pubs or food establishments. The street entertainers will no doubt attend too.
Just get the shops open until 8 or even 9pm. There are plenty of folks wandering about the streets in the evening with nowhere to go except pubs or food establishments. The street entertainers will no doubt attend too. mack
  • Score: 4

10:17pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Blythespirit says...

Big Bad Wolf wrote:
X5019c wrote:
What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.
The "poor people" who live above Coppergate? Are there many private homes that overlook Coppergate? If there are any I would imagine they are pretty used to hearing people milling about?
There are flats but I expect they're used to it. There are bars and a hotel round there. I used to live in town and you get so accustomed to the noise you just switch off to it.
[quote][p][bold]Big Bad Wolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: What about the poor people that live in the flats around Coppergate? The noise that they have to put up with during the day carrying on into the evening! It would drive me potty.[/p][/quote]The "poor people" who live above Coppergate? Are there many private homes that overlook Coppergate? If there are any I would imagine they are pretty used to hearing people milling about?[/p][/quote]There are flats but I expect they're used to it. There are bars and a hotel round there. I used to live in town and you get so accustomed to the noise you just switch off to it. Blythespirit
  • Score: 2

10:43pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Silver says...

When I first moved here, I went to my first York food festival, I especially loved the fact that they had an amateur area of fresh food prepared by locals in coppergate. I remember a local woman making the best vegetable curry I've ever had with a hand made chapati created from scratch within what seemed a minute. Successive food festivals have never been as good to my view. We don't use coppergate as well as we used to.
When I first moved here, I went to my first York food festival, I especially loved the fact that they had an amateur area of fresh food prepared by locals in coppergate. I remember a local woman making the best vegetable curry I've ever had with a hand made chapati created from scratch within what seemed a minute. Successive food festivals have never been as good to my view. We don't use coppergate as well as we used to. Silver
  • Score: 4

10:26am Fri 8 Aug 14

bolero says...

Waiting for anything to happen in York is like waiting for the cows to come home.
Waiting for anything to happen in York is like waiting for the cows to come home. bolero
  • Score: 2

11:00am Fri 8 Aug 14

Tom Cobley says...

MistressMiddlethorpe wrote:
I cannot understand how a Tory councillor is berating the Council for not spending money when the only organisations funding it should be those benefiting from it, namely the businesses in Coppergate.

It is not the Council's job to spend cash-strapped resources in an area of the city dominated by large corporate retailers with far greater resources than our Council. All the Council should be doing is facilitating the enterprise by ensuring any planning and H&S approvals are progressed promptly through the relevant council departments, perhaps at a slightly reduced rate - nothing more.
Who said anything about spending large sums of money. It is about partnership working, the only cost to the Council would be a bit of officer time and a bit of encouragement with the businesses in Coppergate, truth is they would be pushing at an open door. Some of the officers are I fear are "Gold Plating" which will lead I suspect to failure. Perhaps people should read the report first to understand what is being proposed!! It would perhaps enlighten those who seem to oppose.
John Galvin
[quote][p][bold]MistressMiddlethorpe[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand how a Tory councillor is berating the Council for not spending money when the only organisations funding it should be those benefiting from it, namely the businesses in Coppergate. It is not the Council's job to spend cash-strapped resources in an area of the city dominated by large corporate retailers with far greater resources than our Council. All the Council should be doing is facilitating the enterprise by ensuring any planning and H&S approvals are progressed promptly through the relevant council departments, perhaps at a slightly reduced rate - nothing more.[/p][/quote]Who said anything about spending large sums of money. It is about partnership working, the only cost to the Council would be a bit of officer time and a bit of encouragement with the businesses in Coppergate, truth is they would be pushing at an open door. Some of the officers are I fear are "Gold Plating" which will lead I suspect to failure. Perhaps people should read the report first to understand what is being proposed!! It would perhaps enlighten those who seem to oppose. John Galvin Tom Cobley
  • Score: 2

11:03am Fri 8 Aug 14

Tom Cobley says...

mack wrote:
Just get the shops open until 8 or even 9pm. There are plenty of folks wandering about the streets in the evening with nowhere to go except pubs or food establishments. The street entertainers will no doubt attend too.
This is what the Pilot was aiming to do only in a more contained way. If successful it could be widened out but it is clear that improving the Evening economy will not work simply based on a retail offer across the City.
[quote][p][bold]mack[/bold] wrote: Just get the shops open until 8 or even 9pm. There are plenty of folks wandering about the streets in the evening with nowhere to go except pubs or food establishments. The street entertainers will no doubt attend too.[/p][/quote]This is what the Pilot was aiming to do only in a more contained way. If successful it could be widened out but it is clear that improving the Evening economy will not work simply based on a retail offer across the City. Tom Cobley
  • Score: 1

11:32am Fri 8 Aug 14

meme says...

Well how about that?
When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting...
When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post.
Well said!

Good solution.

I was not aware I was a troll or churlish etc an have never been accused before of this...what got under your skin??
PS another idea....Why not use modern technology to use the old photos the Press has of York and project them onto the relevant building at night to show what York was like in the 50's and 60's ie a modern take on history. this could run for a week or so and be really interesting to people in early evenings
Well how about that? When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting... When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post. Well said! Good solution. I was not aware I was a troll or churlish etc an have never been accused before of this...what got under your skin?? PS another idea....Why not use modern technology to use the old photos the Press has of York and project them onto the relevant building at night to show what York was like in the 50's and 60's ie a modern take on history. this could run for a week or so and be really interesting to people in early evenings meme
  • Score: 4

12:36pm Fri 8 Aug 14

bolero says...

meme wrote:
Well how about that?
When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting...
When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post.
Well said!

Good solution.

I was not aware I was a troll or churlish etc an have never been accused before of this...what got under your skin??
PS another idea....Why not use modern technology to use the old photos the Press has of York and project them onto the relevant building at night to show what York was like in the 50's and 60's ie a modern take on history. this could run for a week or so and be really interesting to people in early evenings
Why not forget the past and start living in the 21st century.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Well how about that? When you're not doggedly being the defensive disciple, when you're not childish churlish tricky trolling boring baiting... When you stop all that you come up with a brilliant post. Well said! Good solution. I was not aware I was a troll or churlish etc an have never been accused before of this...what got under your skin?? PS another idea....Why not use modern technology to use the old photos the Press has of York and project them onto the relevant building at night to show what York was like in the 50's and 60's ie a modern take on history. this could run for a week or so and be really interesting to people in early evenings[/p][/quote]Why not forget the past and start living in the 21st century. bolero
  • Score: -7

3:51pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Jack Ham says...

So despite flying all over the world, at our expenses, neither Katie Stewart, Kersten England or James Alexander have a clue about what to do next.

Performance management for the paid staff and vote of no confidence for the cabinet are the only solutions we have now. We need fresh people, real talent. Honest, genuine and inspirational people here for York not their own careers.
So despite flying all over the world, at our expenses, neither Katie Stewart, Kersten England or James Alexander have a clue about what to do next. Performance management for the paid staff and vote of no confidence for the cabinet are the only solutions we have now. We need fresh people, real talent. Honest, genuine and inspirational people here for York not their own careers. Jack Ham
  • Score: 5

5:40pm Fri 8 Aug 14

meme says...

Unfortunately lots of people come to york because of the past that's why we r so busy!
It's just however another off the wall suggestion
How about some of your own
Unfortunately lots of people come to york because of the past that's why we r so busy! It's just however another off the wall suggestion How about some of your own meme
  • Score: 3

5:55pm Fri 8 Aug 14

doltare says...

goatman wrote:
Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week.
This would be no good abroad they have different weather to the UK! It might be ok in Summer but not winter. York residents need to vote these Labour out next year! There anti car, anti residents shopping in town. York council should in put residents first! Tourist are great too.
[quote][p][bold]goatman[/bold] wrote: Entertainment in the centre of York will only be a bolt-on to the shopping, unless a purpose-built entertainment complex is built to attract people in. The shops would be better off adopting continental opening hours and open late close late a couple of days a week.[/p][/quote]This would be no good abroad they have different weather to the UK! It might be ok in Summer but not winter. York residents need to vote these Labour out next year! There anti car, anti residents shopping in town. York council should in put residents first! Tourist are great too. doltare
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10:25pm Fri 8 Aug 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Katie Stewart, the council's head of economic development, said work was going on behind the scenes to launch the pilot scheme and other ideas to liven up the city between 5pm and 8pm.

are these lot really, really that stupid?? do they really think that families in York after a hard days work/school want to pop into town for coffee and cake or whatever at the current prices charged?? also its this current crop that keep saying everybody is skint and going to food banks ?? what is it council? are we all skint and queing at food banks ? or can we afford to take little Nigel and Felicity into town after work/school for coffee and cake?
Katie Stewart, the council's head of economic development, said work was going on behind the scenes to launch the pilot scheme and other ideas to liven up the city between 5pm and 8pm. are these lot really, really that stupid?? do they really think that families in York after a hard days work/school want to pop into town for coffee and cake or whatever at the current prices charged?? also its this current crop that keep saying everybody is skint and going to food banks ?? what is it council? are we all skint and queing at food banks ? or can we afford to take little Nigel and Felicity into town after work/school for coffee and cake? oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 2

11:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

bolero says...

meme wrote:
Unfortunately lots of people come to york because of the past that's why we r so busy!
It's just however another off the wall suggestion
How about some of your own
I find this a rather puzzling comment. Why is it unfortunate that people come to york because of the past?
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately lots of people come to york because of the past that's why we r so busy! It's just however another off the wall suggestion How about some of your own[/p][/quote]I find this a rather puzzling comment. Why is it unfortunate that people come to york because of the past? bolero
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