Rail company CrossCountry withdraws quiet coaches from its trains out of York

Paul Hepworth

Paul Hepworth

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A RAIL company has been slammed after it removed 'quiet coaches' from its trains out of York.

CrossCountry, which runs services from York to cities including Birmingham and Bristol, claims such coaches are no longer needed because modern technology and better signals mean people can now communicate quietly and clearly.

But Paul Hepworth, a regular Cross County trains user from York, who complained to rail watchdog Passenger Focus about the decision, said many passengers didn't realise they no longer needed to talk loudly on modern mobile phones.

"I’m fed up of having to listen to megaphone conversations from the far end of a carriage," he said. "Only yesterday I had to put up with a loud conversation all the way between Leeds and York.

"The truth is that the 4 and 5 coach Voyager trains that Cross Country inherited from the previous franchisee, Virgin, are often unable to cope with demand for travel."

Passenger Focus said it understood his frustrations and had raised concerns over the implications for passengers, but there was no statutory obligation for Cross Country to consult the wider industry prior to withdrawing quiet carriages. "Therefore, regrettably, there is no legislative pressure that we can apply to compel them to reinstate same," it added.

CrossCountry spokesman Richard Gibson said it introduced such coaches in the 1990s, when mobile phones were in their infancy and the technology meant for 'poor connections and loud conversation,' and they had now been removed from the company's Voyager trains following feedback from customers and staff.

He said that as well as better technology and mobile signals, improved headphone design meant entertainment systems emitted much less noise.

"In addition, changing trends mean that people are far more likely to be communicating by text, email and through Facebook and Twitter than making phone calls when travelling by train."

He said that in their place, the company had provided signage throughout the train, and onboard teams would make regular announcements to remind all customers to consider how their actions could affect other customers.

"Our staff are trained to help all our customers and anyone that feels the actions of others are spoiling their journey can approach our onboard people who will be happy to help."

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12:52pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Paul Hepworth says...

The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!) Paul Hepworth
  • Score: -47

1:00pm Sat 2 Aug 14

piaggio1 says...

Well if you actually paid for your rail journeys. Which i suspect you dont ....ex br employee???. I would on this occasion agree with thee...but no
Well if you actually paid for your rail journeys. Which i suspect you dont ....ex br employee???. I would on this occasion agree with thee...but no piaggio1
  • Score: 26

1:04pm Sat 2 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul.
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)[/p][/quote]...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul. eeoodares
  • Score: 19

1:08pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

alays the option of ear plugs or MP3 music.
alays the option of ear plugs or MP3 music. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 9

1:50pm Sat 2 Aug 14

maybejustmaybe says...

When I pointed out to a fellow traveler that they were in the quiet carriage, I was told to go away in short jerky movements. The noisy pensioners shouting at each other didn't help the matter.
When I pointed out to a fellow traveler that they were in the quiet carriage, I was told to go away in short jerky movements. The noisy pensioners shouting at each other didn't help the matter. maybejustmaybe
  • Score: 25

2:03pm Sat 2 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

eeoodares wrote:
Paul Hepworth wrote:
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul.
Where's your high viz jacket and cycle helmet you are always banging on about other cyclists using to prevent them being hit by the evil contraption your know as a car ????
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)[/p][/quote]...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul.[/p][/quote]Where's your high viz jacket and cycle helmet you are always banging on about other cyclists using to prevent them being hit by the evil contraption your know as a car ???? smudge2
  • Score: 26

2:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

oi oi savaloy says...

This lunatic as absolutely no right at all to complain about "fair paying passengers" on trains talking, playing music or anything at all, he uses free passes , a perk of the old B.R. days!
This lunatic as absolutely no right at all to complain about "fair paying passengers" on trains talking, playing music or anything at all, he uses free passes , a perk of the old B.R. days! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 13

2:35pm Sat 2 Aug 14

chelk says...

smudge2 wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Paul Hepworth wrote:
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul.
Where's your high viz jacket and cycle helmet you are always banging on about other cyclists using to prevent them being hit by the evil contraption your know as a car ????
And he is stopped on double yellow lines
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)[/p][/quote]...and not calling yourself Pedalling Paul.[/p][/quote]Where's your high viz jacket and cycle helmet you are always banging on about other cyclists using to prevent them being hit by the evil contraption your know as a car ????[/p][/quote]And he is stopped on double yellow lines chelk
  • Score: 20

3:25pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Cheeky face says...

Quiet coaches are not a luxury anymore. It is so easy to sort out.

Photo taken in the 1950s I presume!
Quiet coaches are not a luxury anymore. It is so easy to sort out. Photo taken in the 1950s I presume! Cheeky face
  • Score: 14

5:08pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Blimp says...

How exciting! We always imagined Pedalling Paul would be some sort of gremlin in nasty lycra, tiny black goggles and a patchy beard. But no, he's a dignified individual sporting some rather natty bike clips.

Are any more regular posters going to reveal themselves?

Buzzz Lightyear, Ignatius, Maybejustmaybe photos?

Brilliant, love it! More please.





For a bloke who attracts so many negatives on this site, he's a brave bloke for having his picture up.
How exciting! We always imagined Pedalling Paul would be some sort of gremlin in nasty lycra, tiny black goggles and a patchy beard. But no, he's a dignified individual sporting some rather natty bike clips. Are any more regular posters going to reveal themselves? Buzzz Lightyear, Ignatius, Maybejustmaybe photos? Brilliant, love it! More please. For a bloke who attracts so many negatives on this site, he's a brave bloke for having his picture up. Blimp
  • Score: 25

5:10pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pedalling paul says...

Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors. pedalling paul
  • Score: -20

5:16pm Sat 2 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
Your just going to have to wear some PPE i.e. Hearing protection to the required SNR rating, it won't make you look any more of a grumpy old man than your picture portrays pp, love the trousers tucked into the socks by the way, priceless!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)[/p][/quote]Your just going to have to wear some PPE i.e. Hearing protection to the required SNR rating, it won't make you look any more of a grumpy old man than your picture portrays pp, love the trousers tucked into the socks by the way, priceless! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 16

5:17pm Sat 2 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Give over PH
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]Give over PH notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 21

5:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Give over PH
I know this man personally and he is definitely pedalling paul of BR and the polluting tour bus. I used to work with him. Bit cheeky using free train travel perks and then complaining but he never changes.......Always controversial ..Fine head of hair though !!
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]Give over PH[/p][/quote]I know this man personally and he is definitely pedalling paul of BR and the polluting tour bus. I used to work with him. Bit cheeky using free train travel perks and then complaining but he never changes.......Always controversial ..Fine head of hair though !! smudge2
  • Score: 23

7:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Caecilius says...

Here's some feedback from a customer, Mr Gibson - CrossCountry's policy of allowing seats to be reserved after the train is already en route is barking mad. It results in customers paying your highest, walk-on fares (usually because they have no other option) being turfed out of seats that were free when they sat down, and it's a recipe for conflict. Of course, I've told you this before, and passed on some of the pearls of wisdom addressed to customers by your staff, like "You should know what to expect by now", "You're paying for the journey, not for a seat " (to a gentleman who'd made a seat reservation that you'd failed to honour), and "All your ticket guarantees is that we'll get you to your destination". That's why I no longer travel with CrossCountry unless there's absolutely no alternative.
Here's some feedback from a customer, Mr Gibson - CrossCountry's policy of allowing seats to be reserved after the train is already en route is barking mad. It results in customers paying your highest, walk-on fares (usually because they have no other option) being turfed out of seats that were free when they sat down, and it's a recipe for conflict. Of course, I've told you this before, and passed on some of the pearls of wisdom addressed to customers by your staff, like "You should know what to expect by now", "You're paying for the journey, not for a seat " (to a gentleman who'd made a seat reservation that you'd failed to honour), and "All your ticket guarantees is that we'll get you to your destination". That's why I no longer travel with CrossCountry unless there's absolutely no alternative. Caecilius
  • Score: 17

9:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

strangebuttrue? says...

It's easy to see Paul in the flesh. Just wait till the council put in a traffic lane reducing cycle lane doubling the length of queues, delays and pollution and he will be the man standing at the end of it taking the registration numbers of any who dare to transgress.
It's easy to see Paul in the flesh. Just wait till the council put in a traffic lane reducing cycle lane doubling the length of queues, delays and pollution and he will be the man standing at the end of it taking the registration numbers of any who dare to transgress. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 18

8:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

Haddie Nuff says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local
media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have
arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as
“Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as “Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press." Haddie Nuff
  • Score: 16

9:42am Sun 3 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Haddie Nuff wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local
media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have
arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as
“Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."
Games up son.
[quote][p][bold]Haddie Nuff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as “Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."[/p][/quote]Games up son. smudge2
  • Score: 15

9:24pm Sun 3 Aug 14

malonemalone says...

what an old fuss pot.................
get a life love.............moa
n moan moan
what an old fuss pot................. get a life love.............moa n moan moan malonemalone
  • Score: 4

11:50pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

**Nokia ringtone a la Dom Joly**
"HELLO!!"
...
"YEAH I'm on THE TRAIN!"
...
"Yeah it's cool but there's this twonk with a bike...."
...
"Yeah I know..."
**Nokia ringtone a la Dom Joly** "HELLO!!" ... "YEAH I'm on THE TRAIN!" ... "Yeah it's cool but there's this twonk with a bike...." ... "Yeah I know..." Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 13

9:21am Mon 4 Aug 14

MrsHoney says...

Quiet coaches are a haven!! I had the misfortune of sitting in a normal coach on the way back from London. Walking through the quiet coach on the way back from the buffet was bliss, in ours there were sing songs going on, people getting drunk and wandering up and down chatting loudly, music blaring. People are so inconsiderate, it's not a flipping night club! Besides all that to say that techonology today means it's quiet is rubbish, people sit playing on their phones without having it on mute, watch films, or youtube clips etc, have loud phone conversations, have music playing far too loud........ There's no need for it!!
Quiet coaches are a haven!! I had the misfortune of sitting in a normal coach on the way back from London. Walking through the quiet coach on the way back from the buffet was bliss, in ours there were sing songs going on, people getting drunk and wandering up and down chatting loudly, music blaring. People are so inconsiderate, it's not a flipping night club! Besides all that to say that techonology today means it's quiet is rubbish, people sit playing on their phones without having it on mute, watch films, or youtube clips etc, have loud phone conversations, have music playing far too loud........ There's no need for it!! MrsHoney
  • Score: 9

10:35am Mon 4 Aug 14

Batman Begins says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)
Is it possible to get a "quiet" version of this website? One that doesn't allow Peddling Paul Hepworth to rant away!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: The photo doesn't do me justice....I've acquired a few more wrinkles since it was taken some years ago (and a different town bike as well!)[/p][/quote]Is it possible to get a "quiet" version of this website? One that doesn't allow Peddling Paul Hepworth to rant away! Batman Begins
  • Score: 8

2:05pm Mon 4 Aug 14

sounds weird but says...

MrsHoney wrote:
Quiet coaches are a haven!! I had the misfortune of sitting in a normal coach on the way back from London. Walking through the quiet coach on the way back from the buffet was bliss, in ours there were sing songs going on, people getting drunk and wandering up and down chatting loudly, music blaring. People are so inconsiderate, it's not a flipping night club! Besides all that to say that techonology today means it's quiet is rubbish, people sit playing on their phones without having it on mute, watch films, or youtube clips etc, have loud phone conversations, have music playing far too loud........ There's no need for it!!
Yes the quiet coaches provide some kind of santuary!

Inconsiderate or ignorant though I am not sure.. I dont really care I just wish that people would pollute my space with noises that are irritating.
[quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: Quiet coaches are a haven!! I had the misfortune of sitting in a normal coach on the way back from London. Walking through the quiet coach on the way back from the buffet was bliss, in ours there were sing songs going on, people getting drunk and wandering up and down chatting loudly, music blaring. People are so inconsiderate, it's not a flipping night club! Besides all that to say that techonology today means it's quiet is rubbish, people sit playing on their phones without having it on mute, watch films, or youtube clips etc, have loud phone conversations, have music playing far too loud........ There's no need for it!![/p][/quote]Yes the quiet coaches provide some kind of santuary! Inconsiderate or ignorant though I am not sure.. I dont really care I just wish that people would pollute my space with noises that are irritating. sounds weird but
  • Score: 3

2:25pm Mon 4 Aug 14

the original Homer says...

Haddie Nuff wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local
media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have
arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as
“Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."
Paul Hepworth, you must respond to this. For now, rather than call you a liar, I will simply ask you to tell explain the apparent contradiction in what we are reading.

Put simply, are you or are you not pedalling paul?

If you maintain that you are not pedalling paul, then I would like you to convey that to the CTC, so that they can issue a correction to their annual report. It is very misleading for members to be told you are campaigning on their behalf if it isn't really you doing the campaigning. In fact to leave that uncorrected would be dishonest, in my opinion.

If you concede that you are pedalling paul, then I would like you to publicly state so on this website. It is very misleading for contributors to be told they are confused in the mind if all they have done is seen through your attempt at deception. It is also very misleading for readers to be given the impression that a second person agrees with some of your wild ideas if that 2nd person turns out to just be you with a different hat on. Having 2 identities also puts the scores on the posts into further disrepute. To leave all of that uncorrected would be dishonest, in my opinion.

This website is not a virtual reality game, and whilst it does allow anonymity, I believe all postings should be honest and truthful.

So, to repeat my question Paul Hepworth are you or are you not pedalling paul?
[quote][p][bold]Haddie Nuff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as “Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."[/p][/quote]Paul Hepworth, you must respond to this. For now, rather than call you a liar, I will simply ask you to tell explain the apparent contradiction in what we are reading. Put simply, are you or are you not pedalling paul? If you maintain that you are not pedalling paul, then I would like you to convey that to the CTC, so that they can issue a correction to their annual report. It is very misleading for members to be told you are campaigning on their behalf if it isn't really you doing the campaigning. In fact to leave that uncorrected would be dishonest, in my opinion. If you concede that you are pedalling paul, then I would like you to publicly state so on this website. It is very misleading for contributors to be told they are confused in the mind if all they have done is seen through your attempt at deception. It is also very misleading for readers to be given the impression that a second person agrees with some of your wild ideas if that 2nd person turns out to just be you with a different hat on. Having 2 identities also puts the scores on the posts into further disrepute. To leave all of that uncorrected would be dishonest, in my opinion. This website is not a virtual reality game, and whilst it does allow anonymity, I believe all postings should be honest and truthful. So, to repeat my question Paul Hepworth are you or are you not pedalling paul? the original Homer
  • Score: 6

2:29pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Blimp wrote:
How exciting! We always imagined Pedalling Paul would be some sort of gremlin in nasty lycra, tiny black goggles and a patchy beard. But no, he's a dignified individual sporting some rather natty bike clips.

Are any more regular posters going to reveal themselves?

Buzzz Lightyear, Ignatius, Maybejustmaybe photos?

Brilliant, love it! More please.





For a bloke who attracts so many negatives on this site, he's a brave bloke for having his picture up.
No, not photos. Something more interactive.

I think the The Press should have a social evening and invite us all to turn up... and, once there, we'd all have to work out who each other is. Canapés at dusk. After all, it's only because we're here and contributing that the Press website has become the heaving melting pot of impassioned intellect that it now is.
[quote][p][bold]Blimp[/bold] wrote: How exciting! We always imagined Pedalling Paul would be some sort of gremlin in nasty lycra, tiny black goggles and a patchy beard. But no, he's a dignified individual sporting some rather natty bike clips. Are any more regular posters going to reveal themselves? Buzzz Lightyear, Ignatius, Maybejustmaybe photos? Brilliant, love it! More please. For a bloke who attracts so many negatives on this site, he's a brave bloke for having his picture up.[/p][/quote]No, not photos. Something more interactive. I think the The Press should have a social evening and invite us all to turn up... and, once there, we'd all have to work out who each other is. Canapés at dusk. After all, it's only because we're here and contributing that the Press website has become the heaving melting pot of impassioned intellect that it now is. Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 3

8:20pm Mon 4 Aug 14

m dee says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/5006469.
Should_we_pay_to_dri
ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases ,
finite road space
essential road-users
cannot build ourselves out of congestion
stick rather than the carrot.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/5006469. Should_we_pay_to_dri ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases , finite road space essential road-users cannot build ourselves out of congestion stick rather than the carrot. m dee
  • Score: 2

9:40pm Mon 4 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

m dee wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress

.co.uk/news/5006469.

Should_we_pay_to_dri

ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases ,
finite road space
essential road-users
cannot build ourselves out of congestion
stick rather than the carrot.
Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........!

I'm pedallingpaul.......
....no I'm pedallingpaul.......
........no I'm pedallingpaul
[quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/5006469. Should_we_pay_to_dri ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases , finite road space essential road-users cannot build ourselves out of congestion stick rather than the carrot.[/p][/quote]Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........! I'm pedallingpaul....... ....no I'm pedallingpaul....... ........no I'm pedallingpaul notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 2

10:19pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Batman Begins says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
m dee wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress


.co.uk/news/5006469.


Should_we_pay_to_dri


ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases ,
finite road space
essential road-users
cannot build ourselves out of congestion
stick rather than the carrot.
Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........!

I'm pedallingpaul.......

....no I'm pedallingpaul.......

........no I'm pedallingpaul
He may also be breaching the website terms of use...

9. Registration

You can only access the registration areas of the site if:

you do not create additional registration accounts which may cause disruption or abuse of the site;

you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user.

If we believe that you have not complied with these requirements, we may cancel your access to the site immediately and without notice.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/5006469. Should_we_pay_to_dri ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases , finite road space essential road-users cannot build ourselves out of congestion stick rather than the carrot.[/p][/quote]Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........! I'm pedallingpaul....... ....no I'm pedallingpaul....... ........no I'm pedallingpaul[/p][/quote]He may also be breaching the website terms of use... 9. Registration You can only access the registration areas of the site if: you do not create additional registration accounts which may cause disruption or abuse of the site; you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user. If we believe that you have not complied with these requirements, we may cancel your access to the site immediately and without notice. Batman Begins
  • Score: 4

10:36pm Mon 4 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Batman Begins wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
m dee wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress



.co.uk/news/5006469.



Should_we_pay_to_dri



ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases ,
finite road space
essential road-users
cannot build ourselves out of congestion
stick rather than the carrot.
Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........!

I'm pedallingpaul.......


....no I'm pedallingpaul.......


........no I'm pedallingpaul
He may also be breaching the website terms of use...

9. Registration

You can only access the registration areas of the site if:

you do not create additional registration accounts which may cause disruption or abuse of the site;

you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user.

If we believe that you have not complied with these requirements, we may cancel your access to the site immediately and without notice.
Now having not bothered to read the 'terms of use' myself, that part of the registration terms ................ you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user ................ appears to me that is exactly what he is actually doing, he comments both as PaulHepworth and as pedallingpaul, must admit he's harmless as none of his rantings will ever see the light of day, and if he's banned who are we going to ridicule?
[quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.[/p][/quote]No confusion Paul,he uses the exact same terminology as you,please check the link http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/5006469. Should_we_pay_to_dri ve_in_York_/ and note the phrases , finite road space essential road-users cannot build ourselves out of congestion stick rather than the carrot.[/p][/quote]Who is the real pedallingpaul? stand up..........! I'm pedallingpaul....... ....no I'm pedallingpaul....... ........no I'm pedallingpaul[/p][/quote]He may also be breaching the website terms of use... 9. Registration You can only access the registration areas of the site if: you do not create additional registration accounts which may cause disruption or abuse of the site; you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user. If we believe that you have not complied with these requirements, we may cancel your access to the site immediately and without notice.[/p][/quote]Now having not bothered to read the 'terms of use' myself, that part of the registration terms ................ you do not supply us with false or misleading information or pass yourself off as another user ................ appears to me that is exactly what he is actually doing, he comments both as PaulHepworth and as pedallingpaul, must admit he's harmless as none of his rantings will ever see the light of day, and if he's banned who are we going to ridicule? notpedallingpaul
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