Rickshaws set to pedal in to York

Ben Hartop, left, and Joe Allenza of b-spokes Hub who are starting their rickshaw taxi business in York

Ben Hartop, left, and Joe Allenza of b-spokes Hub who are starting their rickshaw taxi business in York

Ben Hartop, left, and Joe Allenza of b-spokes Hub who are starting their rickshaw taxi business in York

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A NEW form of transport is heading to the streets of the York as a rickshaw company pedals out of Edinburgh into the city.

Operating in the Scottish capital since 2001, b-spokes is now preparing to open its second site in York after securing ten rickshaw licences from City of York Council.

The business has already appointed a local manger to head-up the York operation, and expects to create around 20 jobs once up an running.

As well as running a taxi service, b-spokes also operates a delivery service via cargo-bikes, and advertising for business through ad-bikes as well as running promotions on the rickshaws.

Joe Allenza, who owns b-spokes with his father Nino, said: "We have been looking for another city to operate in for a while.

"The reason it works in Edinburgh is the city's popularity among tourists and students.

"We looked for cities with similar cultures and saw York as a great opportunity.

"We have been in talks with City of York Council which has been very receptive and helpful in getting us up and running."

Operating out of the Raylor Centre, in James Street, b-spokes is hoping to be operational within a month.

Staff are currently being recruited to ride the rickshaws, and will all be offered professional training and cycling licences.

From its operation in Edinburgh b-spokes has provided branded rickshaws and tricycle ad-bike services to companies such as SSE, Virgin, Rewind Festival, The Scotsman, Paterson’s, Fat Face and White Stuff.

Mr Allenza said the rickshaws have also proved to be popular for weddings, while the delivery service offers couriers a quicker, greener way to deliver parcels into the city centre.

He said: "There's the opportunity to work with some really good businesses in York and we are looking forward to building up good relationships.

"We are passionate about pedal power and protecting the environment. Our ethos is to create a more sustainable future and use pedal power to help reduce carbon emissions."

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9:31am Sat 19 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
Great. Even more hold ups in town now. Jack Ham
  • Score: 11

9:57am Sat 19 Jul 14

sheps lad says...

Should put PP in a good mood this morning!
Should put PP in a good mood this morning! sheps lad
  • Score: 2

10:05am Sat 19 Jul 14

offa says...

Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they? offa
  • Score: 13

10:07am Sat 19 Jul 14

sniper 9964 says...

There has been these things in York for a while now. I believe that they are Hackney carriage so you can jump on one and ask for a lift home.
I wonder if it will take off ;-)
There has been these things in York for a while now. I believe that they are Hackney carriage so you can jump on one and ask for a lift home. I wonder if it will take off ;-) sniper 9964
  • Score: 21

10:08am Sat 19 Jul 14

notmyrealname says...

does the Press just put the word "HUB" after everything now !!
does the Press just put the word "HUB" after everything now !! notmyrealname
  • Score: 29

10:09am Sat 19 Jul 14

notmyrealname says...

Good for them though - hope it succeeds
Good for them though - hope it succeeds notmyrealname
  • Score: -5

10:14am Sat 19 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

Jack Ham wrote:
Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
Yes, at least with ordinary bikes you can (usually) get past them.

If they aren't starting for another month the best of the season will have gone. They should have started at the begining of the season.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Great. Even more hold ups in town now.[/p][/quote]Yes, at least with ordinary bikes you can (usually) get past them. If they aren't starting for another month the best of the season will have gone. They should have started at the begining of the season. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 4

10:19am Sat 19 Jul 14

mitch2nd says...

Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way mitch2nd
  • Score: 25

10:32am Sat 19 Jul 14

mack says...

Jack Ham wrote:
Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea.
Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Great. Even more hold ups in town now.[/p][/quote]I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea. Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge. mack
  • Score: 11

10:44am Sat 19 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

mack wrote:
Jack Ham wrote:
Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea.
Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge.
Stop giving them ideas, they have enough stupid ideas of their own!!
[quote][p][bold]mack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Great. Even more hold ups in town now.[/p][/quote]I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea. Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge.[/p][/quote]Stop giving them ideas, they have enough stupid ideas of their own!! AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -4

10:46am Sat 19 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

As stated in previous comments above, these are NOT NEW in York, the company running thee new things might be.

The old company and of "rickshaws" where ordered off either by the council, of Health and Safety

So they are Not New ..
As stated in previous comments above, these are NOT NEW in York, the company running thee new things might be. The old company and of "rickshaws" where ordered off either by the council, of Health and Safety So they are Not New .. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 38

10:50am Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
[quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes! Miles Davis
  • Score: 8

11:01am Sat 19 Jul 14

eeoodares says...

Brilliant idea, I have used them many times in many Cities.
Brilliant idea, I have used them many times in many Cities. eeoodares
  • Score: 19

11:25am Sat 19 Jul 14

Funnyian says...

hope they don't go dow the foot strrets like the last lot did and what about insurance?
hope they don't go dow the foot strrets like the last lot did and what about insurance? Funnyian
  • Score: 27

11:53am Sat 19 Jul 14

Dr Brian says...

Good Luck to them - at least they won't deposit 'oss muck like other like the horse and carriages.
Good Luck to them - at least they won't deposit 'oss muck like other like the horse and carriages. Dr Brian
  • Score: 0

11:54am Sat 19 Jul 14

Stressed Out says...

I think it takes a bit longer than a month for a driver to get licensed. I can't see this up and running before the end of summer. taxi drivers I know say theres all sorts of hoops to go through, knowledge tests and CRB checks etc.
Anyhow good luck to them
I think it takes a bit longer than a month for a driver to get licensed. I can't see this up and running before the end of summer. taxi drivers I know say theres all sorts of hoops to go through, knowledge tests and CRB checks etc. Anyhow good luck to them Stressed Out
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Sat 19 Jul 14

bloodaxe says...

Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.
Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right. bloodaxe
  • Score: -21

12:49pm Sat 19 Jul 14

york_chap says...

So, the council can't screw up traffic in the city with Lendal Bridge being closed so they're encouraging these new road blockers instead. However, these being run by a private company means any problems they cause won't tarnish the council's image, such that it is.

Having spent time in London, where these things are on every corner in the tourist areas at night, I've seen first hand the problems they can cause.

Firstly there's the nuisance factor; in London they seem to be operated by mainly middle-eastern and other immigrants, who fit the bikes with brightly coloured flashing lights, faux leopard print seat covers and some blare horrendously loud, bhangra-type music all night. I dread to think what impression all this gives tourists.

Further, and more importantly are safety issues. These things are almost as wide as a car, but of course have no number plates or indicators. Many of the ones in London don't even have any rear lights on them which is extremely dangerous at night.

Finally, there are the congestion problems which these bikes create. Being as wide as a car means they take up a whole traffic lane. When fully laden with 2 or 3 drunkards, they travel at a max of 10mph. Even in London where many roads have 2 or 3 lanes, there is always a slow trail of buses, taxis, cars and delivery vehicles crawling along behind as they simply can't overtake.
Being technically a bike, the riders often try squeezing them down bike lanes and between vehicles where there just isn't space. They'll merrily go down the wrong side of the road/along the pavement past the traffic queue and then pull in at the front. Soon as the lights change, the road is reduced to 10mph again.

I sincerely hope that the fact a private company is operating them in York (rather than individuals) will alleviate/overcome many of these issues, but I can't help wondering what effect this will have on traffic, including public transport in York.
So, the council can't screw up traffic in the city with Lendal Bridge being closed so they're encouraging these new road blockers instead. However, these being run by a private company means any problems they cause won't tarnish the council's image, such that it is. Having spent time in London, where these things are on every corner in the tourist areas at night, I've seen first hand the problems they can cause. Firstly there's the nuisance factor; in London they seem to be operated by mainly middle-eastern and other immigrants, who fit the bikes with brightly coloured flashing lights, faux leopard print seat covers and some blare horrendously loud, bhangra-type music all night. I dread to think what impression all this gives tourists. Further, and more importantly are safety issues. These things are almost as wide as a car, but of course have no number plates or indicators. Many of the ones in London don't even have any rear lights on them which is extremely dangerous at night. Finally, there are the congestion problems which these bikes create. Being as wide as a car means they take up a whole traffic lane. When fully laden with 2 or 3 drunkards, they travel at a max of 10mph. Even in London where many roads have 2 or 3 lanes, there is always a slow trail of buses, taxis, cars and delivery vehicles crawling along behind as they simply can't overtake. Being technically a bike, the riders often try squeezing them down bike lanes and between vehicles where there just isn't space. They'll merrily go down the wrong side of the road/along the pavement past the traffic queue and then pull in at the front. Soon as the lights change, the road is reduced to 10mph again. I sincerely hope that the fact a private company is operating them in York (rather than individuals) will alleviate/overcome many of these issues, but I can't help wondering what effect this will have on traffic, including public transport in York. york_chap
  • Score: -20

12:55pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Caecilius says...

AnotherPointofView wrote:
Jack Ham wrote:
Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
Yes, at least with ordinary bikes you can (usually) get past them.

If they aren't starting for another month the best of the season will have gone. They should have started at the begining of the season.
It's generally more a question of cyclists being able to get past the blockage caused by long tailbacks of vehicles inching their way in or out of town.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Great. Even more hold ups in town now.[/p][/quote]Yes, at least with ordinary bikes you can (usually) get past them. If they aren't starting for another month the best of the season will have gone. They should have started at the begining of the season.[/p][/quote]It's generally more a question of cyclists being able to get past the blockage caused by long tailbacks of vehicles inching their way in or out of town. Caecilius
  • Score: 8

1:51pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

york_chap wrote:
So, the council can't screw up traffic in the city with Lendal Bridge being closed so they're encouraging these new road blockers instead. However, these being run by a private company means any problems they cause won't tarnish the council's image, such that it is.

Having spent time in London, where these things are on every corner in the tourist areas at night, I've seen first hand the problems they can cause.

Firstly there's the nuisance factor; in London they seem to be operated by mainly middle-eastern and other immigrants, who fit the bikes with brightly coloured flashing lights, faux leopard print seat covers and some blare horrendously loud, bhangra-type music all night. I dread to think what impression all this gives tourists.

Further, and more importantly are safety issues. These things are almost as wide as a car, but of course have no number plates or indicators. Many of the ones in London don't even have any rear lights on them which is extremely dangerous at night.

Finally, there are the congestion problems which these bikes create. Being as wide as a car means they take up a whole traffic lane. When fully laden with 2 or 3 drunkards, they travel at a max of 10mph. Even in London where many roads have 2 or 3 lanes, there is always a slow trail of buses, taxis, cars and delivery vehicles crawling along behind as they simply can't overtake.
Being technically a bike, the riders often try squeezing them down bike lanes and between vehicles where there just isn't space. They'll merrily go down the wrong side of the road/along the pavement past the traffic queue and then pull in at the front. Soon as the lights change, the road is reduced to 10mph again.

I sincerely hope that the fact a private company is operating them in York (rather than individuals) will alleviate/overcome many of these issues, but I can't help wondering what effect this will have on traffic, including public transport in York.
Shock horror!! How dare we have anything colorful traveling down our traffic congested streets!! The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!!
The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand where the traffic is even worse than York!!
More bikes good, less cars better!!
[quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: So, the council can't screw up traffic in the city with Lendal Bridge being closed so they're encouraging these new road blockers instead. However, these being run by a private company means any problems they cause won't tarnish the council's image, such that it is. Having spent time in London, where these things are on every corner in the tourist areas at night, I've seen first hand the problems they can cause. Firstly there's the nuisance factor; in London they seem to be operated by mainly middle-eastern and other immigrants, who fit the bikes with brightly coloured flashing lights, faux leopard print seat covers and some blare horrendously loud, bhangra-type music all night. I dread to think what impression all this gives tourists. Further, and more importantly are safety issues. These things are almost as wide as a car, but of course have no number plates or indicators. Many of the ones in London don't even have any rear lights on them which is extremely dangerous at night. Finally, there are the congestion problems which these bikes create. Being as wide as a car means they take up a whole traffic lane. When fully laden with 2 or 3 drunkards, they travel at a max of 10mph. Even in London where many roads have 2 or 3 lanes, there is always a slow trail of buses, taxis, cars and delivery vehicles crawling along behind as they simply can't overtake. Being technically a bike, the riders often try squeezing them down bike lanes and between vehicles where there just isn't space. They'll merrily go down the wrong side of the road/along the pavement past the traffic queue and then pull in at the front. Soon as the lights change, the road is reduced to 10mph again. I sincerely hope that the fact a private company is operating them in York (rather than individuals) will alleviate/overcome many of these issues, but I can't help wondering what effect this will have on traffic, including public transport in York.[/p][/quote]Shock horror!! How dare we have anything colorful traveling down our traffic congested streets!! The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!! The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand where the traffic is even worse than York!! More bikes good, less cars better!! Miles Davis
  • Score: 22

1:53pm Sat 19 Jul 14

sniper 9964 says...

I have not seen the jobs advertised yet ! So its going to take a while to set up.
I have not seen the jobs advertised yet ! So its going to take a while to set up. sniper 9964
  • Score: -14

2:09pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

bloodaxe wrote:
Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.
And there we go. A direct statement from Cllr Sonja Crisp. Shameful contempt for residents simply trying to go about their lives.
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.[/p][/quote]And there we go. A direct statement from Cllr Sonja Crisp. Shameful contempt for residents simply trying to go about their lives. Jack Ham
  • Score: -86

2:17pm Sat 19 Jul 14

eeoodares says...

bloodaxe wrote:
Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.
Pointless troll!
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.[/p][/quote]Pointless troll! eeoodares
  • Score: -198

2:38pm Sat 19 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

sheps lad wrote:
Should put PP in a good mood this morning!
Wow! At last the perfect job for pedalling paul aka Paul Hepworth!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sheps lad[/bold] wrote: Should put PP in a good mood this morning![/p][/quote]Wow! At last the perfect job for pedalling paul aka Paul Hepworth!!!! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -88

2:45pm Sat 19 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -16

3:54pm Sat 19 Jul 14

naburn says...

The last time these were used in York it failed and there was a lot less traffic then..
The last time these were used in York it failed and there was a lot less traffic then.. naburn
  • Score: 45

4:15pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!!
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike[/p][/quote]What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!! Miles Davis
  • Score: -19

4:38pm Sat 19 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!!
I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink!
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike[/p][/quote]What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!![/p][/quote]I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -17

5:11pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Meirion M says...

A big NO rickshaws or what ever they will be called.
York is not Shanghai.
The rickshaws will on cause even more congestion on our streets.
As for the pollution matter: they will add to pollution-air pollution a visual pollution.
Another stupid idea from York Council!
Roll on May 2015, when Alexander and his rag-time band are driven out of York, into the sunset of their failing political careers.
A big NO rickshaws or what ever they will be called. York is not Shanghai. The rickshaws will on cause even more congestion on our streets. As for the pollution matter: they will add to pollution-air pollution a visual pollution. Another stupid idea from York Council! Roll on May 2015, when Alexander and his rag-time band are driven out of York, into the sunset of their failing political careers. Meirion M
  • Score: -15

5:20pm Sat 19 Jul 14

jumbojet says...

mack wrote:
Jack Ham wrote:
Great. Even more hold ups in town now.
I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea.
Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge.
How can York Council operate a congestion charge? they have no idea, if they can't oversee a simple bridge closure, they have no chance of running a computerised congestion system.
[quote][p][bold]mack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Great. Even more hold ups in town now.[/p][/quote]I bet this was a prime factor why our esteemed Council was so "receptive" to the idea. Certain councillors and the politicised officers will not stop until they achieve enough gridlock to justify a congestion charge.[/p][/quote]How can York Council operate a congestion charge? they have no idea, if they can't oversee a simple bridge closure, they have no chance of running a computerised congestion system. jumbojet
  • Score: -2

6:12pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

These will be an ideal alternative to taxis since they will be able to go the wrong way down one way streets.
These will be an ideal alternative to taxis since they will be able to go the wrong way down one way streets. Pinza-C55
  • Score: -15

6:27pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!!
I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink!
I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?!
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike[/p][/quote]What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!![/p][/quote]I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink![/p][/quote]I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?! Miles Davis
  • Score: -26

6:31pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

Meirion M wrote:
A big NO rickshaws or what ever they will be called.
York is not Shanghai.
The rickshaws will on cause even more congestion on our streets.
As for the pollution matter: they will add to pollution-air pollution a visual pollution.
Another stupid idea from York Council!
Roll on May 2015, when Alexander and his rag-time band are driven out of York, into the sunset of their failing political careers.
What is wrong with a bit if colour!! 'Visual pollution'!!! Get a life! A bit of colour and fun would do this place some good! Tourist attraction, employment potential, visually good and great fun!!
The bridge wasn't a good idea, but this just might be. Give it a chance! Or are you one of those 'we cant have change, change is bad' types!!!!?
[quote][p][bold]Meirion M[/bold] wrote: A big NO rickshaws or what ever they will be called. York is not Shanghai. The rickshaws will on cause even more congestion on our streets. As for the pollution matter: they will add to pollution-air pollution a visual pollution. Another stupid idea from York Council! Roll on May 2015, when Alexander and his rag-time band are driven out of York, into the sunset of their failing political careers.[/p][/quote]What is wrong with a bit if colour!! 'Visual pollution'!!! Get a life! A bit of colour and fun would do this place some good! Tourist attraction, employment potential, visually good and great fun!! The bridge wasn't a good idea, but this just might be. Give it a chance! Or are you one of those 'we cant have change, change is bad' types!!!!? Miles Davis
  • Score: -31

7:12pm Sat 19 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!!
I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink!
I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?!
I don't really have a car like that, was winding you up, but seriously don't you think these things are going slow all motorised traffic, cars will probably be able to nip past them but buses are going to struggle, and if you happen to get Thomas the Tank engine having to follow one of these over LB, then a bus will have no chance, also are they going to taxi people out of town to say wigginton/haxby?, it might be a huge success so we'll have to wait and see.
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike[/p][/quote]What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!![/p][/quote]I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink![/p][/quote]I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?![/p][/quote]I don't really have a car like that, was winding you up, but seriously don't you think these things are going slow all motorised traffic, cars will probably be able to nip past them but buses are going to struggle, and if you happen to get Thomas the Tank engine having to follow one of these over LB, then a bus will have no chance, also are they going to taxi people out of town to say wigginton/haxby?, it might be a huge success so we'll have to wait and see. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -15

8:05pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike
What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!!
I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink!
I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?!
I don't really have a car like that, was winding you up, but seriously don't you think these things are going slow all motorised traffic, cars will probably be able to nip past them but buses are going to struggle, and if you happen to get Thomas the Tank engine having to follow one of these over LB, then a bus will have no chance, also are they going to taxi people out of town to say wigginton/haxby?, it might be a huge success so we'll have to wait and see.
Wish I had did have a car like that!! Aston Martin Vanquish....I wish! Who knows how it will turn out....but could it be worse than the 'Bridge fiasco'!! Those clowns have so got to go?!!
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]What a stupid comment, perhaps you should bring all the produce and goods into the city on your bike[/p][/quote]What a good idea!!! You must be on the council!! Take a rise in pay and get yourself a gas guzzling car too!! Buffoon!![/p][/quote]I already have a thirsty 3.5 ltr petrol engined sports car, less polluting than diesel, so why would I want another, I think you have totaly missed the point, but hey ho not to worry, I'll be able to nip round these so called sickrhaws in faster than you can blink![/p][/quote]I am sure there are many points. Great tourist attraction, colorful, different, employment potential, eco friendly and a very good idea. This would work and is a very good idea. Give it a chance for goodness sake! There are very few negatives for this idea..change can be a good thing...the bridge wasn't, but this COULD be?![/p][/quote]I don't really have a car like that, was winding you up, but seriously don't you think these things are going slow all motorised traffic, cars will probably be able to nip past them but buses are going to struggle, and if you happen to get Thomas the Tank engine having to follow one of these over LB, then a bus will have no chance, also are they going to taxi people out of town to say wigginton/haxby?, it might be a huge success so we'll have to wait and see.[/p][/quote]Wish I had did have a car like that!! Aston Martin Vanquish....I wish! Who knows how it will turn out....but could it be worse than the 'Bridge fiasco'!! Those clowns have so got to go?!! Miles Davis
  • Score: -17

9:19pm Sat 19 Jul 14

RingoStarr says...

Mr Allenza said..."We are passionate about pedal power and protecting the environment. Our ethos is to create a more sustainable future and use pedal power to help reduce carbon emissions."


...and making money.
Mr Allenza said..."We are passionate about pedal power and protecting the environment. Our ethos is to create a more sustainable future and use pedal power to help reduce carbon emissions." ...and making money. RingoStarr
  • Score: -10

9:42pm Sat 19 Jul 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Well I suppose we will have to see how it goes. If the council is supportive I can only assume that it means they fully expect them to cause more congestion and pollution and see them as another tool in there arsenal of resident motorist harassing anti car weapons. Judging by past performance this will result in more pollution.

I would be very careful if I were a business in York supporting this. I can see a fair old backlash if they turn out to be as successful in creating the congestion I think the council will be hoping for.
Well I suppose we will have to see how it goes. If the council is supportive I can only assume that it means they fully expect them to cause more congestion and pollution and see them as another tool in there arsenal of resident motorist harassing anti car weapons. Judging by past performance this will result in more pollution. I would be very careful if I were a business in York supporting this. I can see a fair old backlash if they turn out to be as successful in creating the congestion I think the council will be hoping for. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -9

9:44pm Sat 19 Jul 14

strangebuttrue? says...

And one more for the score adjuster here. I can see how true feelings are going by the later, as yet, unadjusted posts.
And one more for the score adjuster here. I can see how true feelings are going by the later, as yet, unadjusted posts. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -17

9:59pm Sat 19 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
Well I suppose we will have to see how it goes. If the council is supportive I can only assume that it means they fully expect them to cause more congestion and pollution and see them as another tool in there arsenal of resident motorist harassing anti car weapons. Judging by past performance this will result in more pollution.

I would be very careful if I were a business in York supporting this. I can see a fair old backlash if they turn out to be as successful in creating the congestion I think the council will be hoping for.
Yes 10 of these on the roads are certain to cause congestion, pound to a penny that's why the council issued the licences.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: Well I suppose we will have to see how it goes. If the council is supportive I can only assume that it means they fully expect them to cause more congestion and pollution and see them as another tool in there arsenal of resident motorist harassing anti car weapons. Judging by past performance this will result in more pollution. I would be very careful if I were a business in York supporting this. I can see a fair old backlash if they turn out to be as successful in creating the congestion I think the council will be hoping for.[/p][/quote]Yes 10 of these on the roads are certain to cause congestion, pound to a penny that's why the council issued the licences. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -9

6:29am Sun 20 Jul 14

ScottArten says...

offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas"
[quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas" ScottArten
  • Score: -15

6:46am Sun 20 Jul 14

ScottArten says...

offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
Miles Davis wrote:
"they work well in Thailand"

Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.
[quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]Miles Davis wrote: "they work well in Thailand" Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders. ScottArten
  • Score: -12

7:34am Sun 20 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

ScottArten wrote:
offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas"
Quite right, people who decry car usage need to get a reality check, self employed trades people, carers, midwives, community nurses, doctors, delivery firms all use cars, and then there's the general public who need a car to get to and from a place of work, it really makes me wonder just what these anti-car commenters do all day, but now they can apply for a job as a rickshaw peddler, that'll keep em busy!
[quote][p][bold]ScottArten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas"[/p][/quote]Quite right, people who decry car usage need to get a reality check, self employed trades people, carers, midwives, community nurses, doctors, delivery firms all use cars, and then there's the general public who need a car to get to and from a place of work, it really makes me wonder just what these anti-car commenters do all day, but now they can apply for a job as a rickshaw peddler, that'll keep em busy! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -13

8:17am Sun 20 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor
k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P
DF.aspx?ID=13754
I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service.

My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master.
Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P DF.aspx?ID=13754 I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service. My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master. pedalling paul
  • Score: 12

9:08am Sun 20 Jul 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor

k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P

DF.aspx?ID=13754
I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service.

My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master.
Which one of my previous comments shall I copy and paste today?
Oh I know, the one about the car becoming a bad master.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P DF.aspx?ID=13754 I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service. My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master.[/p][/quote]Which one of my previous comments shall I copy and paste today? Oh I know, the one about the car becoming a bad master. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 2

9:56am Sun 20 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

ScottArten wrote:
offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
Miles Davis wrote:
"they work well in Thailand"

Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.
Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done!
[quote][p][bold]ScottArten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]Miles Davis wrote: "they work well in Thailand" Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.[/p][/quote]Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done! Miles Davis
  • Score: 10

11:18am Sun 20 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P DF.aspx?ID=13754 I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service. My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master.
But you are anti-car paul, it comes across as clear as crystal, you blame everything about congestion on the number of cars on the road, it’s the restricting measures and closing off of streets and roads that cause congestion, take the bus lanes for example totally empty whilst a queue of cars sits along side it, bus lanes should be part time i.e. only for buses and yes taxis which I don’t consider public transport, during the peak times of day.
Oh and as a foot note paul, you can insult me all you like, but unlike you I do live in the real world, and not some fantasy dream world as you would like it to be, and further more please write some new phrases to paste the old ones are becoming boring.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Music to my ears.........the presumed most recent CoYC regulations for pedicabs operators are at http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/mgConvert2P DF.aspx?ID=13754 I think that these may date back to the previous applications to run this type of service. My doppleganger notpedallingpaul suggests that those who decry car use need a reality check, and lists several professions who need to use a motor vehicle. What this dimwit does not appreciate is that being pro-bike is not being anti-car. The realistic aim of York's Transport strategy is to reduce car dependancy, so that those who need to use a motor vehicle eg midwives, traders, can continue to do so more easily. Indeed I make the occasional journey on four wheels. Mind you, I usually need a tin opener to get me out at t'other end. So yes, the car is a good servant. But used inappropriately, it becomes a bad master.[/p][/quote]But you are anti-car paul, it comes across as clear as crystal, you blame everything about congestion on the number of cars on the road, it’s the restricting measures and closing off of streets and roads that cause congestion, take the bus lanes for example totally empty whilst a queue of cars sits along side it, bus lanes should be part time i.e. only for buses and yes taxis which I don’t consider public transport, during the peak times of day. Oh and as a foot note paul, you can insult me all you like, but unlike you I do live in the real world, and not some fantasy dream world as you would like it to be, and further more please write some new phrases to paste the old ones are becoming boring. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -4

11:33am Sun 20 Jul 14

york_chap says...

Miles Davis wrote:
ScottArten wrote:
offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
Miles Davis wrote:
"they work well in Thailand"

Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.
Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done!
Earlier you said: "The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!! The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand..."

Quite clearly, the point this commentor is making is that, despite the efforts of some cretins and the awful 'attractions' they deem to be appropriate and tasteful for our city; thankfully, York is not the same as downtown Bangkok.
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ScottArten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]Miles Davis wrote: "they work well in Thailand" Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.[/p][/quote]Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done![/p][/quote]Earlier you said: "The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!! The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand..." Quite clearly, the point this commentor is making is that, despite the efforts of some cretins and the awful 'attractions' they deem to be appropriate and tasteful for our city; thankfully, York is not the same as downtown Bangkok. york_chap
  • Score: -8

12:36pm Sun 20 Jul 14

sheps lad says...

York is not the same as downtown Bangkok? Try Friday/Saturday nights!
York is not the same as downtown Bangkok? Try Friday/Saturday nights! sheps lad
  • Score: 3

2:22pm Sun 20 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

york_chap wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
ScottArten wrote:
offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
Miles Davis wrote:
"they work well in Thailand"

Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.
Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done!
Earlier you said: "The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!! The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand..."

Quite clearly, the point this commentor is making is that, despite the efforts of some cretins and the awful 'attractions' they deem to be appropriate and tasteful for our city; thankfully, York is not the same as downtown Bangkok.
So you think that the colourful continental market with all its buzz, smells and colour is bad for York? Or the local market with the same amount of colour and variety? And the street artists and tour de France bunting was just 'too much colour'?! And yes, get yourself out of your armchair and work a weekend nights in the filth of the city at 1-5 in the morning. That is where the cretins are!!
[quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ScottArten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]Miles Davis wrote: "they work well in Thailand" Ooh! Thailand. A country full of Ladyblokes & pedos. Its also not far behind Mexico and Brazil for murders.[/p][/quote]Ahh, planet daft bloke has made a totally irrelevant comment!! Well done![/p][/quote]Earlier you said: "The mere thought of a leopard skin print seat cover has me running for the grey drab paint!! The more colour the better, the more bling the merrier! They work well in Thailand..." Quite clearly, the point this commentor is making is that, despite the efforts of some cretins and the awful 'attractions' they deem to be appropriate and tasteful for our city; thankfully, York is not the same as downtown Bangkok.[/p][/quote]So you think that the colourful continental market with all its buzz, smells and colour is bad for York? Or the local market with the same amount of colour and variety? And the street artists and tour de France bunting was just 'too much colour'?! And yes, get yourself out of your armchair and work a weekend nights in the filth of the city at 1-5 in the morning. That is where the cretins are!! Miles Davis
  • Score: -7

2:23pm Sun 20 Jul 14

oi oi savaloy says...

this isn't a new idea in York, its already been done and failed!
this isn't a new idea in York, its already been done and failed! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 10

9:23pm Sun 20 Jul 14

the-e-man says...

I have visited India on numerous occasions and always use them for relative short journeys when they are available ( not all Indian cities/towns have them - I do not know why ). I find them a good mode of transport, However, India is a third world country and wage expectations are not high which is reflected in the fares charged. Also the British climate is somewhat different so this will be a factor. I get the feeling these will be mainly by tourists for a quick city tour. I wonder what the owners of the horse drawn carriges think.
I have visited India on numerous occasions and always use them for relative short journeys when they are available ( not all Indian cities/towns have them - I do not know why ). I find them a good mode of transport, However, India is a third world country and wage expectations are not high which is reflected in the fares charged. Also the British climate is somewhat different so this will be a factor. I get the feeling these will be mainly by tourists for a quick city tour. I wonder what the owners of the horse drawn carriges think. the-e-man
  • Score: 9

9:42pm Sun 20 Jul 14

conorm11 says...

The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen.

If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website.

Get out of York please.
The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen. If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website. Get out of York please. conorm11
  • Score: 17

9:54pm Sun 20 Jul 14

MouseHouse says...

Funnyian wrote:
hope they don't go dow the foot strrets like the last lot did and what about insurance?
They'll have insurance, don't worry.

Been i plenty of these across Asia, I doubt York is big enough to warrant them if I am honest.
[quote][p][bold]Funnyian[/bold] wrote: hope they don't go dow the foot strrets like the last lot did and what about insurance?[/p][/quote]They'll have insurance, don't worry. Been i plenty of these across Asia, I doubt York is big enough to warrant them if I am honest. MouseHouse
  • Score: 11

10:07pm Sun 20 Jul 14

pault42 says...

bloodaxe wrote:
Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.
Capricious? Check definition please. This would really relate to the Lycra clad morons who have a belief they don't have to follow the Highway Code. Also what has this to do with Lendal Bridge?

This isn't a story about car use, bike use or anything along those lines. Its a story about a new business trying to get going. I can't say I'm thrilled at the motorist hating council, or cyclists in general, but the riders of these will probably try their best to drive appropriately to provide a service people will want to use again. Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: Good idea. Anything which makes life difficult for capricious car usage has my vote. Closing Lendal Bridge was right.[/p][/quote]Capricious? Check definition please. This would really relate to the Lycra clad morons who have a belief they don't have to follow the Highway Code. Also what has this to do with Lendal Bridge? This isn't a story about car use, bike use or anything along those lines. Its a story about a new business trying to get going. I can't say I'm thrilled at the motorist hating council, or cyclists in general, but the riders of these will probably try their best to drive appropriately to provide a service people will want to use again. Good luck. pault42
  • Score: 4

7:01am Mon 21 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

conorm11 wrote:
The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen.

If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website.

Get out of York please.
So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul.
[quote][p][bold]conorm11[/bold] wrote: The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen. If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website. Get out of York please.[/p][/quote]So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -33

12:10pm Mon 21 Jul 14

conorm11 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
conorm11 wrote:
The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen.

If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website.

Get out of York please.
So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul.
I'm not a 'liebour' councilor, I'm a student who can see the long term benefits of progress having lived in this city for 18 years, moved to Edinburgh for Uni and then came back.

Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap.

Say we opened up the whole of the city centre again to cars, 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Do you honestly think that would improve this city? 3 things would happen, 1) The City would lose a tonne of tourism money, the streets wouldn't be able to cope with cars due to the amount of pedestrians, so who would win? Well the cars, so people will stop coming. 2) The centre of town will become dirtier and more polluted, asthma rates among children will go up and the idea of preserving the historical nature of the town will disappear. 3) The jams would still be there! This city was never built for cars, it isn't New York or Los Angeles with their huge highways in the centre of town, it's a city of over 2000 years of history.

If you want that just so you don't want to be sat in a jam for a few minutes then i'm sorry sir but that is just sad. Become a councilor so you can change that, good luck with the next election.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]conorm11[/bold] wrote: The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen. If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website. Get out of York please.[/p][/quote]So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul.[/p][/quote]I'm not a 'liebour' councilor, I'm a student who can see the long term benefits of progress having lived in this city for 18 years, moved to Edinburgh for Uni and then came back. Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap. Say we opened up the whole of the city centre again to cars, 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Do you honestly think that would improve this city? 3 things would happen, 1) The City would lose a tonne of tourism money, the streets wouldn't be able to cope with cars due to the amount of pedestrians, so who would win? Well the cars, so people will stop coming. 2) The centre of town will become dirtier and more polluted, asthma rates among children will go up and the idea of preserving the historical nature of the town will disappear. 3) The jams would still be there! This city was never built for cars, it isn't New York or Los Angeles with their huge highways in the centre of town, it's a city of over 2000 years of history. If you want that just so you don't want to be sat in a jam for a few minutes then i'm sorry sir but that is just sad. Become a councilor so you can change that, good luck with the next election. conorm11
  • Score: -14

12:50pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Mister Matosis says...

Photos 1 & 2 are like a spot-the-difference.
Photos 1 & 2 are like a spot-the-difference. Mister Matosis
  • Score: 2

2:33pm Mon 21 Jul 14

stu3466 says...

Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
sad,sad,sad
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]sad,sad,sad stu3466
  • Score: 7

6:55pm Mon 21 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

conorm11 wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
conorm11 wrote:
The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen.

If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website.

Get out of York please.
So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul.
I'm not a 'liebour' councilor, I'm a student who can see the long term benefits of progress having lived in this city for 18 years, moved to Edinburgh for Uni and then came back.

Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap.

Say we opened up the whole of the city centre again to cars, 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Do you honestly think that would improve this city? 3 things would happen, 1) The City would lose a tonne of tourism money, the streets wouldn't be able to cope with cars due to the amount of pedestrians, so who would win? Well the cars, so people will stop coming. 2) The centre of town will become dirtier and more polluted, asthma rates among children will go up and the idea of preserving the historical nature of the town will disappear. 3) The jams would still be there! This city was never built for cars, it isn't New York or Los Angeles with their huge highways in the centre of town, it's a city of over 2000 years of history.

If you want that just so you don't want to be sat in a jam for a few minutes then i'm sorry sir but that is just sad. Become a councilor so you can change that, good luck with the next election.
You say - Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap - sorry young man but my life is fine the way it is, I don't have a problem, your the one with the problem, and I don't want to become a councilor, I'll leave that to the younger ones like yourself, your the one complaining about congestion, as I said I don't have a problem, if I'm in a traffic queue then I put up with it, you see I never said that I even drive through the city, I don't need to I can walk, what sticks in my craw is that people like you telling me how I should live my life, oh and by the way don't try and give me history lessons about the city I was born and bred in, I can probably tell you more about it, finally as I said I'm not bothered wether these pedal powered thingy-me-bobs are on the road, good luck to them, they won't probably be around in the winter anyway.
[quote][p][bold]conorm11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]conorm11[/bold] wrote: The comments above are a sad indictment of the backward thinking in this city. God forbid anyone does anything new or different to what's always been done, it'll impact all those people who can't deal with a minor change to their daily habits! Nevermind the possible economic benefits of having something different, god no! We must allow cars the right to get from A to B as soon as humanly possible with no thought for anyone else! God forbid you have to sit in traffic for 30 seconds waiting for a pedi-cab to move. If the people commenting above (the ones complaining) don't want these things in York, then move. The rest of the residents in this city appreciate new jobs and increased advertising space and better public transport. We don't want you in our city whining and moaning every time something new might happen. If you really care, go complain to someone who can actually change it, or run for the council and do some of the change yourself! But no, it's much more up your street to comment non-stop on a newspapers website. Get out of York please.[/p][/quote]So which liebour councilor are you then?, I use my car because I have a car, why on earth would I buy a car and then leave it stood for days on end whilst I use a bus or ride a bike? But in your world that's being selfish, I'm really not bothered one way or the other wether these things are on the road or not, if I'm in a council intentionally engineered traffic queue I can at least sit in comfort, let's face it you and the council will try anything to prevent free traffic flow, creating jams today where there were no jams yesterday - that ones for you pedalling paul.[/p][/quote]I'm not a 'liebour' councilor, I'm a student who can see the long term benefits of progress having lived in this city for 18 years, moved to Edinburgh for Uni and then came back. Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap. Say we opened up the whole of the city centre again to cars, 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Do you honestly think that would improve this city? 3 things would happen, 1) The City would lose a tonne of tourism money, the streets wouldn't be able to cope with cars due to the amount of pedestrians, so who would win? Well the cars, so people will stop coming. 2) The centre of town will become dirtier and more polluted, asthma rates among children will go up and the idea of preserving the historical nature of the town will disappear. 3) The jams would still be there! This city was never built for cars, it isn't New York or Los Angeles with their huge highways in the centre of town, it's a city of over 2000 years of history. If you want that just so you don't want to be sat in a jam for a few minutes then i'm sorry sir but that is just sad. Become a councilor so you can change that, good luck with the next election.[/p][/quote]You say - Okay, so you use your car because you own it. I use my bike because i own it. I also use my feet because i own them. I also use the bus because I can! You have to compromise with other people or your life will just be crap - sorry young man but my life is fine the way it is, I don't have a problem, your the one with the problem, and I don't want to become a councilor, I'll leave that to the younger ones like yourself, your the one complaining about congestion, as I said I don't have a problem, if I'm in a traffic queue then I put up with it, you see I never said that I even drive through the city, I don't need to I can walk, what sticks in my craw is that people like you telling me how I should live my life, oh and by the way don't try and give me history lessons about the city I was born and bred in, I can probably tell you more about it, finally as I said I'm not bothered wether these pedal powered thingy-me-bobs are on the road, good luck to them, they won't probably be around in the winter anyway. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -20

7:19pm Mon 21 Jul 14

lostand found says...

Taxis must be licenced insured and taxed will YCC tax these congestion crap no get them off the road what a bad idea even the horse traps must pay the council. lets see all bikes pay to use the road
Taxis must be licenced insured and taxed will YCC tax these congestion crap no get them off the road what a bad idea even the horse traps must pay the council. lets see all bikes pay to use the road lostand found
  • Score: 4

7:23pm Mon 21 Jul 14

lostand found says...

ScottArten wrote:
offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas"
Cars pay for every thing they are a mobile bank if cars stopped been used the economy would be bust.
Lets see bikes pay towards this they are a danger to all.
[quote][p][bold]ScottArten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]If there was no cars there would be no economy. I would love to live in a world with fewer cars, no wars, no poverty and even... a smaller population "but alas"[/p][/quote]Cars pay for every thing they are a mobile bank if cars stopped been used the economy would be bust. Lets see bikes pay towards this they are a danger to all. lostand found
  • Score: 5

7:09pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Miles Davis says...

stu3466 wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
mitch2nd wrote:
Great more sodding bikes getting in your way
Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes!
sad,sad,sad
Yes you are a bit arn't you!! Haha!
[quote][p][bold]stu3466[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitch2nd[/bold] wrote: Great more sodding bikes getting in your way[/p][/quote]Bit like all the cars then!! At least there's no smelly exhaust fumes![/p][/quote]sad,sad,sad[/p][/quote]Yes you are a bit arn't you!! Haha! Miles Davis
  • Score: -4

6:59am Wed 23 Jul 14

thinkingoutsidethebox says...

offa wrote:
Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?
it's a modern world - cars are not evil and they generate business - so in another word MONEY.
I have nasty thoughts in my head - rickshaw funerals (don't tempt me).
Cold curries and pizzas delivered from the takeaway.
Rickshaw drivers turning to abuse of each other when overtaking and many more little asides - BUT mainly wet people (no pun intended).
[quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: Jack Ham, if there were no cars, there'd be no hold-ups. But people must have their little tin boxes musn't they?[/p][/quote]it's a modern world - cars are not evil and they generate business - so in another word MONEY. I have nasty thoughts in my head - rickshaw funerals (don't tempt me). Cold curries and pizzas delivered from the takeaway. Rickshaw drivers turning to abuse of each other when overtaking and many more little asides - BUT mainly wet people (no pun intended). thinkingoutsidethebox
  • Score: 4

4:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Here's a good example of how congestion starts - I was walking from Walmgate Bar along Lawrence Street this morning, traffic was queuing at the lights waiting to go across and down Walmgate or turn right into Foss Islands Road, five cars back in the queue there was one of these tricycle advertising things, that are due to hit our roads in the form of rickshaws, when the lights changed all the cars in front of it sped on their way, all the cars behind it had to put up with the peddaling laddie trying to get up some speed, not all cars behind got through the lights, so now there was an even longer queue waiting for the next phase.
But this is progress I hear people shout, my goodness me the council have certainly got a traffic blocker here when they all start peddaling round York.
Here's a good example of how congestion starts - I was walking from Walmgate Bar along Lawrence Street this morning, traffic was queuing at the lights waiting to go across and down Walmgate or turn right into Foss Islands Road, five cars back in the queue there was one of these tricycle advertising things, that are due to hit our roads in the form of rickshaws, when the lights changed all the cars in front of it sped on their way, all the cars behind it had to put up with the peddaling laddie trying to get up some speed, not all cars behind got through the lights, so now there was an even longer queue waiting for the next phase. But this is progress I hear people shout, my goodness me the council have certainly got a traffic blocker here when they all start peddaling round York. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 2

11:33pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Yorkshine1 says...

Boring, repetitive, unimaginative, nonsense comments.
Boring, repetitive, unimaginative, nonsense comments. Yorkshine1
  • Score: -1

6:51am Fri 25 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Yorkshine1 wrote:
Boring, repetitive, unimaginative, nonsense comments.
Bit like your asinine comment then.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkshine1[/bold] wrote: Boring, repetitive, unimaginative, nonsense comments.[/p][/quote]Bit like your asinine comment then. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 0

9:54am Fri 25 Jul 14

meme says...

Room for all of us on the roads if we all behaved in a moderate manner towards each other...............
... whether powered by engines, legs, or electric so everyone get a life and learn to live together
Room for all of us on the roads if we all behaved in a moderate manner towards each other............... ... whether powered by engines, legs, or electric so everyone get a life and learn to live together meme
  • Score: 0

10:17am Fri 25 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

meme wrote:
Room for all of us on the roads if we all behaved in a moderate manner towards each other............... ... whether powered by engines, legs, or electric so everyone get a life and learn to live together
I quite agree with you in principle, but traffic like water needs to flow without needless obstructions, thereby producing less polution, if your water was coming from your tap in a trickle for example, I dont think you would put up with it for long before you called a plumber.
That was what I was trying to convey in my comment, I should have added that the guy on the tricycle could and should have positioned himself in the cycle box.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Room for all of us on the roads if we all behaved in a moderate manner towards each other............... ... whether powered by engines, legs, or electric so everyone get a life and learn to live together[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you in principle, but traffic like water needs to flow without needless obstructions, thereby producing less polution, if your water was coming from your tap in a trickle for example, I dont think you would put up with it for long before you called a plumber. That was what I was trying to convey in my comment, I should have added that the guy on the tricycle could and should have positioned himself in the cycle box. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 0

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