Notorious prisoner Charles Bronson to change name to Charles Salvador

Notorious prisoner to change name

Notorious prisoner to change name

First published in News

ONE of Britain’s most notorious prisoners is preparing to change his name in memory of artist Salvador Dali.

Charles Bronson was born Michael Gordon Peterson in 1952 and was jailed in 1974 for armed robbery. He is currently in Full Sutton Prison, near York.

He took the name of the Hollywood star on suggestion from a fight promoter during a brief period of freedom in the late 1980s, but has now announced he is set to change his name to Charles Salvador after the Surrealist artist.

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10:28am Tue 5 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend.

He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since.

I'm not interested about his name change.
If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING?
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend. He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since. I'm not interested about his name change.[/p][/quote]If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING? andyjon12
  • Score: -4

10:34am Tue 5 Aug 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Surreal, isn't it?
Surreal, isn't it? Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 13

10:52am Tue 5 Aug 14

The Great Buda says...

His PR people must be running out of fairy tales to keep his "name" in media.
His PR people must be running out of fairy tales to keep his "name" in media. The Great Buda
  • Score: 9

10:55am Tue 5 Aug 14

Norman Van Hoogstraten says...

andyjon12 wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend.

He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since.

I'm not interested about his name change.
If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING?
Because I am the most important person on this page and my army of dedicated fans demand a response.
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend. He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since. I'm not interested about his name change.[/p][/quote]If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING?[/p][/quote]Because I am the most important person on this page and my army of dedicated fans demand a response. Norman Van Hoogstraten
  • Score: -12

11:11am Tue 5 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.
It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole. andyjon12
  • Score: -11

11:34am Tue 5 Aug 14

Big Bad Wolf says...

andyjon12 wrote:
It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.
Think he is quite happy to stay where he is.... He is acclimatised to prison life and knows it better than normal life.
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.[/p][/quote]Think he is quite happy to stay where he is.... He is acclimatised to prison life and knows it better than normal life. Big Bad Wolf
  • Score: 13

12:52pm Tue 5 Aug 14

MaggieRules says...

just hang him and be done with it.
just hang him and be done with it. MaggieRules
  • Score: -1

1:19pm Tue 5 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

MaggieRules wrote:
just hang him and be done with it.
The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.
[quote][p][bold]MaggieRules[/bold] wrote: just hang him and be done with it.[/p][/quote]The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too. andyjon12
  • Score: 2

3:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

stu3466 says...

andyjon12 wrote:
MaggieRules wrote:
just hang him and be done with it.
The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.
ang im
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaggieRules[/bold] wrote: just hang him and be done with it.[/p][/quote]The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.[/p][/quote]ang im stu3466
  • Score: -5

5:19pm Tue 5 Aug 14

nottoooldtocare says...

andyjon12 wrote:
MaggieRules wrote:
just hang him and be done with it.
The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.
The government might not want it bringing back, but I wouldn't like to guess the outcome of a public vote on the matter. Many of those I have discussed the death penalty with over the years believe the likes of Bronson, Sutcliffe, Brady, Nielson (both of them Donald and Dennis), Ronnie Kray, West's etc t would never be allowed out, so what's the point of keeping them alive? Would a bit of a cull sort out the overcrowding problems?
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaggieRules[/bold] wrote: just hang him and be done with it.[/p][/quote]The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.[/p][/quote]The government might not want it bringing back, but I wouldn't like to guess the outcome of a public vote on the matter. Many of those I have discussed the death penalty with over the years believe the likes of Bronson, Sutcliffe, Brady, Nielson (both of them Donald and Dennis), Ronnie Kray, West's etc t would never be allowed out, so what's the point of keeping them alive? Would a bit of a cull sort out the overcrowding problems? nottoooldtocare
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Tue 5 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

nottoooldtocare wrote:
andyjon12 wrote:
MaggieRules wrote:
just hang him and be done with it.
The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.
The government might not want it bringing back, but I wouldn't like to guess the outcome of a public vote on the matter. Many of those I have discussed the death penalty with over the years believe the likes of Bronson, Sutcliffe, Brady, Nielson (both of them Donald and Dennis), Ronnie Kray, West's etc t would never be allowed out, so what's the point of keeping them alive? Would a bit of a cull sort out the overcrowding problems?
They still have a human right to live no matter what the financial costs - like it or not. As for what the public would vote for given the chance; thankfully due to our fairly minimalist version of democracy - they won't ever be trusted to make such decisions. Alarmingly, one could picture the scene if they were - no doubt alongside the likes of Bronson etc being hung, electrocuted or whatever - would be benefit claimants, drug addicts, beggars, council house dwellers, single mums, gays and just about anybody else who the right-wing led establishment and it's followers don't like or care about.
[quote][p][bold]nottoooldtocare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaggieRules[/bold] wrote: just hang him and be done with it.[/p][/quote]The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.[/p][/quote]The government might not want it bringing back, but I wouldn't like to guess the outcome of a public vote on the matter. Many of those I have discussed the death penalty with over the years believe the likes of Bronson, Sutcliffe, Brady, Nielson (both of them Donald and Dennis), Ronnie Kray, West's etc t would never be allowed out, so what's the point of keeping them alive? Would a bit of a cull sort out the overcrowding problems?[/p][/quote]They still have a human right to live no matter what the financial costs - like it or not. As for what the public would vote for given the chance; thankfully due to our fairly minimalist version of democracy - they won't ever be trusted to make such decisions. Alarmingly, one could picture the scene if they were - no doubt alongside the likes of Bronson etc being hung, electrocuted or whatever - would be benefit claimants, drug addicts, beggars, council house dwellers, single mums, gays and just about anybody else who the right-wing led establishment and it's followers don't like or care about. andyjon12
  • Score: 4

9:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Rubber Lips says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend.

He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since.

I'm not interested about his name change.
You obviously fancy yourself as a bit of a wide boy judging by your handle
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend. He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since. I'm not interested about his name change.[/p][/quote]You obviously fancy yourself as a bit of a wide boy judging by your handle Rubber Lips
  • Score: -3

7:02am Wed 6 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

andyjon12 wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend.

He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since.

I'm not interested about his name change.
If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING?
Because it's a troll, have noticed this idiot commenting on other issues trying to wind people up, it's hard but ignore it if you can.
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend. He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since. I'm not interested about his name change.[/p][/quote]If you aren't interested in his name change - then I'm guessing you won"t be interested in the article. Therefore, why the hell are YOU COMMENTING?[/p][/quote]Because it's a troll, have noticed this idiot commenting on other issues trying to wind people up, it's hard but ignore it if you can. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 2

7:08am Wed 6 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Rubber Lips wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend.

He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since.

I'm not interested about his name change.
You obviously fancy yourself as a bit of a wide boy judging by your handle
Van Hoogstraten translates as 'of High Street' silly troll name really.
[quote][p][bold]Rubber Lips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: The bloke is an idiot. People have him down as some sort of legend. He got caught nicking a few postage stamps in the 70's and has been in jail ever since. I'm not interested about his name change.[/p][/quote]You obviously fancy yourself as a bit of a wide boy judging by your handle[/p][/quote]Van Hoogstraten translates as 'of High Street' silly troll name really. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 4

8:46am Wed 6 Aug 14

the-e-man says...

andyjon12 wrote:
It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.
That is the problem with our prison system. Some people either do not want to be or simply cannot be rehabilitated. This should be recognised and these people merely locked away to stop them inflicting more harm on the rest of society. All the efforts (and finances) should be directed on first time offenders to stop them reoffending. If a first timer does not respond, once they enter the prison system and mix with the likes of Bronson then they are lost.
Bronson is a violent thug - just ask his victims !!
Andyjon12 raises the subject of parole for Bronson. The question I would ask him is "would you want Bronson living next door to you or even in your neighbourhood ?"
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.[/p][/quote]That is the problem with our prison system. Some people either do not want to be or simply cannot be rehabilitated. This should be recognised and these people merely locked away to stop them inflicting more harm on the rest of society. All the efforts (and finances) should be directed on first time offenders to stop them reoffending. If a first timer does not respond, once they enter the prison system and mix with the likes of Bronson then they are lost. Bronson is a violent thug - just ask his victims !! Andyjon12 raises the subject of parole for Bronson. The question I would ask him is "would you want Bronson living next door to you or even in your neighbourhood ?" the-e-man
  • Score: 3

11:10am Wed 6 Aug 14

PlanetTea says...

I don't understand why they keep putting this man in the news... Who is he? From what I've gather from Google he was a passing acquaintance of the Kray twins and that's suppose to give him some sort of kudos?

Surely calling him "notorious" and humouring him enough to actually take notice of his silly letters is just encouraging him to continue behaving brutally?

I think he's a loser and we (the public, the press) would do better to ignore his existence.

Reading through the comments, nobody seems genuinely intrigued by the news that he is changing his name and why should they? He's nobody.
I don't understand why they keep putting this man in the news... Who is he? From what I've gather from Google he was a passing acquaintance of the Kray twins and that's suppose to give him some sort of kudos? Surely calling him "notorious" and humouring him enough to actually take notice of his silly letters is just encouraging him to continue behaving brutally? I think he's a loser and we (the public, the press) would do better to ignore his existence. Reading through the comments, nobody seems genuinely intrigued by the news that he is changing his name and why should they? He's nobody. PlanetTea
  • Score: 4

2:08pm Wed 6 Aug 14

MaggieRules says...

andyjon12 wrote:
MaggieRules wrote:
just hang him and be done with it.
The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.
Ah so that maybe explains why the british justice system is a joke! and we are a soft touch on criminals.
[quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MaggieRules[/bold] wrote: just hang him and be done with it.[/p][/quote]The British establishment rightly saw sense in the 1950's - with the abolishment of capital punishment. Sorry to disappoint you but your inhumane ideology will never be given serious thought - by any government - both now or in the future - and thank goodness too.[/p][/quote]Ah so that maybe explains why the british justice system is a joke! and we are a soft touch on criminals. MaggieRules
  • Score: 4

5:34pm Wed 6 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

the-e-man wrote:
andyjon12 wrote:
It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.
That is the problem with our prison system. Some people either do not want to be or simply cannot be rehabilitated. This should be recognised and these people merely locked away to stop them inflicting more harm on the rest of society. All the efforts (and finances) should be directed on first time offenders to stop them reoffending. If a first timer does not respond, once they enter the prison system and mix with the likes of Bronson then they are lost.
Bronson is a violent thug - just ask his victims !!
Andyjon12 raises the subject of parole for Bronson. The question I would ask him is "would you want Bronson living next door to you or even in your neighbourhood ?"
I would be fine with Bronson moving in next door - providing he"d been assessed as being fit for release. Anyway, I doubt he"d be any less of a threat than my current next door neighbour; although I guess I'd think twice about lending him my electric hedge cutters. Seriously though, keeping people locked up indefinitely rather than facing the issues around rehabilitation is not acceptable to me. In addition to the inhumanity of it - it creates a dangerous situation where prisoners are left feeling like they have nothing to loose and therefore the whole situation can easily become almost unmanageable.
[quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyjon12[/bold] wrote: It's a sad indicement of our criminal justice system that they have failed to rehabilitate him after all this time. This is a monumental and inhumane failure. After serving forty years in a prison full of hate fuelled men - in addition to the other inmates - surely it's time to debate Bronson's parole.[/p][/quote]That is the problem with our prison system. Some people either do not want to be or simply cannot be rehabilitated. This should be recognised and these people merely locked away to stop them inflicting more harm on the rest of society. All the efforts (and finances) should be directed on first time offenders to stop them reoffending. If a first timer does not respond, once they enter the prison system and mix with the likes of Bronson then they are lost. Bronson is a violent thug - just ask his victims !! Andyjon12 raises the subject of parole for Bronson. The question I would ask him is "would you want Bronson living next door to you or even in your neighbourhood ?"[/p][/quote]I would be fine with Bronson moving in next door - providing he"d been assessed as being fit for release. Anyway, I doubt he"d be any less of a threat than my current next door neighbour; although I guess I'd think twice about lending him my electric hedge cutters. Seriously though, keeping people locked up indefinitely rather than facing the issues around rehabilitation is not acceptable to me. In addition to the inhumanity of it - it creates a dangerous situation where prisoners are left feeling like they have nothing to loose and therefore the whole situation can easily become almost unmanageable. andyjon12
  • Score: 2

9:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

browbeaten says...

whats the betting this waste of space is getting legal aid to do this.
whats the betting this waste of space is getting legal aid to do this. browbeaten
  • Score: 0

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