City of York Council to discuss bus stop plans for Exhibition Square

York Press: Council to discuss bus stop plans Council to discuss bus stop plans

A MAKEOVER for the Theatre Royal bus interchange in the next stage of the Reinvigorate York project will be considered by City of York Council’s Cabinet next week.

The plans are also part of the “Better Bus Area” fund and they aim to see a refurbished Exhibition Square re-open in May 2015.

This is when the Art Gallery is also set to reopen after its refurbishment.

Work on the £270,000 scheme for the Theatre Royal interchange will have to start this summer to meet the deadline, and will see more space made for pedestrians and bus passengers by reducing the size of the existing bus lay-by; two replacement bus shelters; real time bus information screens; as well as better seats for bus passengers.

Cabinet member for transport Cllr David Levene said: “Exhibition Square is a crucial location for a number of well-used bus services, but the environment at the Theatre Interchange is currently poor both for bus passengers and other pedestrians using the area.

“Through ring-fenced bus-improvement funds as part of the Better Bus Area programme, as well as Reinvigorate York investment in the city centre, the council will make Exhibition Square a better place for residents, visitors, and commuters to use and enjoy.”

Proposals for the Exhibition Square aspect of the project will be separately taken to Cabinet in September and works will follow on from the Theatre Interchange project.

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10:15am Wed 25 Jun 14

Pete the Brickie says...

Note to council employees, the best place for a bus to stop is off the road, this allows majority road users in cars to pass the stationary passenger vehicle.
Note to council employees, the best place for a bus to stop is off the road, this allows majority road users in cars to pass the stationary passenger vehicle. Pete the Brickie
  • Score: 20

11:01am Wed 25 Jun 14

Local lassie says...

I'm with you on that one. Never mind reducing the size of the layby, it needs to be big enough to get the buses in so they are not blocking the road. Traffic backs up to the Lendal/Exhibition Square junction as it is because although the road splits with a left hand lane turn down Bootham half the time you can't get in it because of the buses stopped outside the old council offices. Some bright spark 'reduced' the layby on the Tadcaster Road opposite the Knavesmire and subsequently caused traffic to back up because there's not enough room to get past a parked bus when there's traffic coming the other way.
I'm with you on that one. Never mind reducing the size of the layby, it needs to be big enough to get the buses in so they are not blocking the road. Traffic backs up to the Lendal/Exhibition Square junction as it is because although the road splits with a left hand lane turn down Bootham half the time you can't get in it because of the buses stopped outside the old council offices. Some bright spark 'reduced' the layby on the Tadcaster Road opposite the Knavesmire and subsequently caused traffic to back up because there's not enough room to get past a parked bus when there's traffic coming the other way. Local lassie
  • Score: 16

11:03am Wed 25 Jun 14

Rankled says...

"reducing the size of the existing bus lay-by"

So putting more buses in the road, creating more traffic, more congestion, more pollution, and more legal persecution of drivers :\
"reducing the size of the existing bus lay-by" So putting more buses in the road, creating more traffic, more congestion, more pollution, and more legal persecution of drivers :\ Rankled
  • Score: 9

11:04am Wed 25 Jun 14

TheTruthHurts says...

So it has to be started this summer else the money has gone.

I read that as that we are going to get something that is ill thought out, rushed through and will end up with something worse than we have now.

Im looking forward to it already :-)
So it has to be started this summer else the money has gone. I read that as that we are going to get something that is ill thought out, rushed through and will end up with something worse than we have now. Im looking forward to it already :-) TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 14

11:06am Wed 25 Jun 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

BUS W@NKERS.
BUS W@NKERS. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 7

11:08am Wed 25 Jun 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

TheTruthHurts wrote:
So it has to be started this summer else the money has gone. I read that as that we are going to get something that is ill thought out, rushed through and will end up with something worse than we have now. Im looking forward to it already :-)
And then next years budget will be spent on revising it back to before.

I look forward to the 2m wide cycle lane that will come along with this too... after all they do tend to get lost if there isn't a path to follow.
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: So it has to be started this summer else the money has gone. I read that as that we are going to get something that is ill thought out, rushed through and will end up with something worse than we have now. Im looking forward to it already :-)[/p][/quote]And then next years budget will be spent on revising it back to before. I look forward to the 2m wide cycle lane that will come along with this too... after all they do tend to get lost if there isn't a path to follow. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 10

11:16am Wed 25 Jun 14

Fat Harry says...

Here we go again.

The words "bus" and "council" appear in the same article and the usual Pavlovian reaction ensues.
Here we go again. The words "bus" and "council" appear in the same article and the usual Pavlovian reaction ensues. Fat Harry
  • Score: -17

11:32am Wed 25 Jun 14

piaggio1 says...

Get the one at the fox pub (holgate) .sorted first. This bus stop just stops all traffic along holgate road.or move it to the old carridgeworks entrance...nightmare
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Get the one at the fox pub (holgate) .sorted first. This bus stop just stops all traffic along holgate road.or move it to the old carridgeworks entrance...nightmare . piaggio1
  • Score: 25

11:34am Wed 25 Jun 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

Fat Harry wrote:
Here we go again.

The words "bus" and "council" appear in the same article and the usual Pavlovian reaction ensues.
It's all well and good insulting people, but you name a person above you who is wrong with what they say?
[quote][p][bold]Fat Harry[/bold] wrote: Here we go again. The words "bus" and "council" appear in the same article and the usual Pavlovian reaction ensues.[/p][/quote]It's all well and good insulting people, but you name a person above you who is wrong with what they say? AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: 11

11:53am Wed 25 Jun 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Nothing in the press release that acknowledges that this route is part of the inner ring road.

Maybe the project brief will correct the failing by stateing the following requirements:

1. Efficient traffic flow, reducing delays and emissions.
2. Where possible segregated cycle route enhancing safety.
3. Design out obstructions to traffic flow.
4. Maximise pedestrian areas without compromising efficient traffic flow.

The funding may very well be “Better Bus Area” money, but this route belongs to all users and any solution should take account of this.
Nothing in the press release that acknowledges that this route is part of the inner ring road. Maybe the project brief will correct the failing by stateing the following requirements: 1. Efficient traffic flow, reducing delays and emissions. 2. Where possible segregated cycle route enhancing safety. 3. Design out obstructions to traffic flow. 4. Maximise pedestrian areas without compromising efficient traffic flow. The funding may very well be “Better Bus Area” money, but this route belongs to all users and any solution should take account of this. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 24

3:44pm Wed 25 Jun 14

allijew says...

Well it would look rather unsightly to have a bus stop outside the new 5 * hotel.
Well it would look rather unsightly to have a bus stop outside the new 5 * hotel. allijew
  • Score: 12

4:58pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Jim says...

A traffic/council spending article and after 7 hours there's been no sychopantic support from Pedalling Paul predicting gridlock if we don't get more people using buses, bikes or fairy dust powered hoverpacks - is he ill?
A traffic/council spending article and after 7 hours there's been no sychopantic support from Pedalling Paul predicting gridlock if we don't get more people using buses, bikes or fairy dust powered hoverpacks - is he ill? Jim
  • Score: 10

7:12pm Wed 25 Jun 14

postie28 says...

how much does this real time bus information thing cost ? the ones on rougier street haven't worked for nearly a month now. any plans to get that fixed in our lifetime ?
how much does this real time bus information thing cost ? the ones on rougier street haven't worked for nearly a month now. any plans to get that fixed in our lifetime ? postie28
  • Score: 5

9:01pm Wed 25 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

Jim wrote:
A traffic/council spending article and after 7 hours there's been no sychopantic support from Pedalling Paul predicting gridlock if we don't get more people using buses, bikes or fairy dust powered hoverpacks - is he ill?
Actually I'd rather see the Exhibition Square bus area kept sufficiently large to accommodate two open toppers (sometimes one can't get away as another is arriving) plus the Stephenson's service that arrives/leaves from there. That will assist the flow of traffic on the adjoining main road.
I don't accept the implied assertion that "buses delay traffic." Traffic comprises all wheeled transport, whether motor driven or human powered.
And just maybe it's those optional short distance single occupancy car journeys that are the true cause of congestion. The Congestion charging debate has not gone away.
[quote][p][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote: A traffic/council spending article and after 7 hours there's been no sychopantic support from Pedalling Paul predicting gridlock if we don't get more people using buses, bikes or fairy dust powered hoverpacks - is he ill?[/p][/quote]Actually I'd rather see the Exhibition Square bus area kept sufficiently large to accommodate two open toppers (sometimes one can't get away as another is arriving) plus the Stephenson's service that arrives/leaves from there. That will assist the flow of traffic on the adjoining main road. I don't accept the implied assertion that "buses delay traffic." Traffic comprises all wheeled transport, whether motor driven or human powered. And just maybe it's those optional short distance single occupancy car journeys that are the true cause of congestion. The Congestion charging debate has not gone away. pedalling paul
  • Score: 37

9:52pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Haywire says...

piaggio1 wrote:
Get the one at the fox pub (holgate) .sorted first. This bus stop just stops all traffic along holgate road.or move it to the old carridgeworks entrance...nightmare

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Is a carridge a cross between a carrot and a cabbage, possibly?
[quote][p][bold]piaggio1[/bold] wrote: Get the one at the fox pub (holgate) .sorted first. This bus stop just stops all traffic along holgate road.or move it to the old carridgeworks entrance...nightmare .[/p][/quote]Is a carridge a cross between a carrot and a cabbage, possibly? Haywire
  • Score: -6

8:15am Thu 26 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

Interestingly, the Theatre Royal has just received Planning Consent for a major upgrade, which includes glazing in the colonnade that currently acts as an unofficial useful inbound bus shelter. So will passengers get wet in future? And where will I be able to park my bike while visiting the Box Office?
Interestingly, the Theatre Royal has just received Planning Consent for a major upgrade, which includes glazing in the colonnade that currently acts as an unofficial useful inbound bus shelter. So will passengers get wet in future? And where will I be able to park my bike while visiting the Box Office? pedalling paul
  • Score: 15

12:30pm Fri 27 Jun 14

mmarshal says...

You only have to look at the chaos on the opposite side of the road to see the value of the decent sized laby outside the Theatre Royal. There is ample room for pedestrians beside the Theatre Royal but little room on the opposite side of the road where passengers queuing for the No 1 and No 5 buses compete with passing pedestrians.
Why spend any money on fixing the side that does not have a problem?
You only have to look at the chaos on the opposite side of the road to see the value of the decent sized laby outside the Theatre Royal. There is ample room for pedestrians beside the Theatre Royal but little room on the opposite side of the road where passengers queuing for the No 1 and No 5 buses compete with passing pedestrians. Why spend any money on fixing the side that does not have a problem? mmarshal
  • Score: 0

5:20am Sat 28 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

I really don't understand this council....

It says it wants to 'promote more cycling', yet the first thing they do is get rid of the most important bit of the Water End cycle route, and more rcently have added dangerous cycle routes up at Clifton Moor...

It says it wants to 'make it easier to travel by bus'... but then makes traffic lights stay on red for longer by adding compulsory pedestrians phases and disabling traffic monitoring sensors; and now they plan to get rid of the bus turning circle outside the Art Gallery, expecting buses from Easingwold and Thirsk to go over Lendal Bridge TWICE to use Station Road to turn around.

In this council a mindf**k or a clusterf**k? you decide....
I really don't understand this council.... It says it wants to 'promote more cycling', yet the first thing they do is get rid of the most important bit of the Water End cycle route, and more rcently have added dangerous cycle routes up at Clifton Moor... It says it wants to 'make it easier to travel by bus'... but then makes traffic lights stay on red for longer by adding compulsory pedestrians phases and disabling traffic monitoring sensors; and now they plan to get rid of the bus turning circle outside the Art Gallery, expecting buses from Easingwold and Thirsk to go over Lendal Bridge TWICE to use Station Road to turn around. In this council a mindf**k or a clusterf**k? you decide.... Magicman!
  • Score: 0
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