New big wheel plan for York

York Press: The York Wheel, pictured previously The York Wheel, pictured previously

A BIG wheel could return to the National Railway Museum in York, its original location in the city.

Talks are being held about bringing an observation wheel back to the Leeman Road site, more than five years after it was removed there and just months after its replacement was dismantled at the Royal York Hotel.

Freij International, which operated York’s previous wheel, is considering various options, The Press understands, including North Street Gardens next to the River Ouse.

The NRM has confirmed it is in discussions with the company about its possible return. About 1.2 million people rode on the 60-metre wheel which span at the museum between 2006 and 2008, when it was credited with boosting the attraction’s visitor numbers.

The 53-metre, 42-pod York Wheel subsequently opened in the grounds of the Royal York Hotel in December 2011. It was bought by Dubai-based Freij after the structure’s then owners, Great City Attractions Global, went into administration the following year.

It was originally due to be taken down at the start of 2013 but City of York Council extended its planning permission until last autumn, although the authority said any requests to keep it open after that were unlikely to succeed following complaints from residents of nearby Westgate Apartments.

Jim Lowe, the NRM’s visitor operations manager north, said: “We can confirm we are working with Freij International to explore the possibility of bringing the York Wheel back to the National Railway Museum.

"The wheel was a valuable addition to the museum during its stay between 2006 and 2008 and drew new and repeat visitors from all over the country. We are exploring a different site within our grounds, but at this time no definite plans are in place and we would, of course, follow the normal planning procedures.”

John Lowery, Freij’s UK operations director, said: “As we said when we left York last year, it is a city we want to operate in.

“There were difficulties with the wheel staying at the Royal York Hotel, but we would have loved to stay there. We have been looking at different options in York for the wheel and we will continue to do so.”

York’s former wheel is now based in Manchester’s Piccadilly Gardens. After it left the NRM in 2008, attempts to find an alternative location at North Street Gardens, St George’s Field and next to the Museum Gardens all failed before the Royal York Hotel site was chosen.

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7:14am Fri 24 Jan 14

livewithit says...

Quick find some bats !
Quick find some bats ! livewithit

8:12am Fri 24 Jan 14

chrisatyork says...

Im sure i saw a newt in north street gardens.
Im sure i saw a newt in north street gardens. chrisatyork

8:42am Fri 24 Jan 14

notmyrealname says...

oh no here we go again !....BORING !!
oh no here we go again !....BORING !! notmyrealname

9:02am Fri 24 Jan 14

Pete the Brickie says...

Hopefully my council will follow good business practice this time and ensure this company's trading figures and actual assets are sufficient to enable them to pay business rates if the wheel does return.
Hopefully my council will follow good business practice this time and ensure this company's trading figures and actual assets are sufficient to enable them to pay business rates if the wheel does return. Pete the Brickie

9:18am Fri 24 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

Good news !
Good news ! Rocking Horse

9:44am Fri 24 Jan 14

meme says...

good news its another attraction to the City and we should stop being so bloody precious about such a thing
good news its another attraction to the City and we should stop being so bloody precious about such a thing meme

10:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

Madasanibbotson says...

Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.
Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes. Madasanibbotson

10:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

Marc77 says...

I wonder how many moaners will whinge about it ruining the "character" of this city.
I wonder how many moaners will whinge about it ruining the "character" of this city. Marc77

10:12am Fri 24 Jan 14

CaroleBaines says...

Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.
Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can. CaroleBaines

10:14am Fri 24 Jan 14

maccagraeme says...

Madasanibbotson wrote:
Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.
I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......
[quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.[/p][/quote]I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time...... maccagraeme

10:23am Fri 24 Jan 14

Madasanibbotson says...

maccagraeme wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.
I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......
If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article).
[quote][p][bold]maccagraeme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.[/p][/quote]I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......[/p][/quote]If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article). Madasanibbotson

10:26am Fri 24 Jan 14

far2bizzy says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.
Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate.
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.[/p][/quote]Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate. far2bizzy

10:47am Fri 24 Jan 14

YorkPatrol says...

far2bizzy wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote: Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.
Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate.
How many tourists did you meet so we can get an idea as to the survey volumes?
[quote][p][bold]far2bizzy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.[/p][/quote]Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate.[/p][/quote]How many tourists did you meet so we can get an idea as to the survey volumes? YorkPatrol

10:47am Fri 24 Jan 14

maccagraeme says...

Madasanibbotson wrote:
maccagraeme wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.
I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......
If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article).
If you read your own post, you'd see you wrote "other crackpot schemes", implying that the wheel would be one as well.....
[quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maccagraeme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.[/p][/quote]I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......[/p][/quote]If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article).[/p][/quote]If you read your own post, you'd see you wrote "other crackpot schemes", implying that the wheel would be one as well..... maccagraeme

11:20am Fri 24 Jan 14

Madasanibbotson says...

maccagraeme wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
maccagraeme wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.
I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......
If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article).
If you read your own post, you'd see you wrote "other crackpot schemes", implying that the wheel would be one as well.....
I won't bother listing all of CYC crackpot schemes.

The word other means in addition to those that exist, and didn't refer to the wheel.

When in a hole stop digging.
[quote][p][bold]maccagraeme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maccagraeme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: Needs to Minster side of the river so that visitors to York can incur a £60 fine for crossing Lendal Bridge, for Jimmy Alexander and his hopeless bunch to waste on other crackpot schemes.[/p][/quote]I would hardly call a wheel a "crackpot scheme". As far as I'm aware, the wheel isn't a new thing, in fact, they've been around for some time......[/p][/quote]If you read the post the fines would be used for crackpot schemes (The CYC wouldn't own the wheel-see the press article).[/p][/quote]If you read your own post, you'd see you wrote "other crackpot schemes", implying that the wheel would be one as well.....[/p][/quote]I won't bother listing all of CYC crackpot schemes. The word other means in addition to those that exist, and didn't refer to the wheel. When in a hole stop digging. Madasanibbotson

12:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Daley Mayall says...

If they're going to bring it back, it needs to be sited somewhere differently so that those that have ridden it before (I haven't, by the way) might be persuaded to ride it again to give another perspective on our beautiful city.
If they're going to bring it back, it needs to be sited somewhere differently so that those that have ridden it before (I haven't, by the way) might be persuaded to ride it again to give another perspective on our beautiful city. Daley Mayall

12:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Great news! I never did mind the wheel, just not in front of people's homes.
Great news! I never did mind the wheel, just not in front of people's homes. Woody G Mellor

3:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

meme says...

best place is North st gardens on river, no homes ,near a part of this city that needs more people
best place is North st gardens on river, no homes ,near a part of this city that needs more people meme

3:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

muckybutt says...

Bring it back ! :)

Myself and my family all enjoyed visiting and going on the wheel when it was in the Royal York last year, actually quite miss seeing it now it's gone.

Good for tourism so get it back.
Bring it back ! :) Myself and my family all enjoyed visiting and going on the wheel when it was in the Royal York last year, actually quite miss seeing it now it's gone. Good for tourism so get it back. muckybutt

3:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

pedalling paul says...

Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good!
Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good! pedalling paul

3:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Madasanibbotson says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good!
You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good![/p][/quote]You need help. Make an appointment with your GP. Madasanibbotson

4:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Pinza-C55 says...

This thing is like the Daleks. You keep thinking you have killed it off but it keeps coming back for another go.
This thing is like the Daleks. You keep thinking you have killed it off but it keeps coming back for another go. Pinza-C55

4:32pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Filofact! says...

Wheelie good news. Excuse me whilst I pop out to my Wheely Bin!!
Wheelie good news. Excuse me whilst I pop out to my Wheely Bin!! Filofact!

4:33pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mmarshal says...

It 'could be' good for tourism provided something is done about signposting to ensure that visitors aren't lured into the Lendal Bridge cash cow. Many visitors have expressed their intent not to return.
I note that those entering York from the A19 north are still greeted with signs near Clifton Green which advise that Lendal Bridge is restricted access and they should drive straight on (ie via Lendal Bridge) for the railway station.
It 'could be' good for tourism provided something is done about signposting to ensure that visitors aren't lured into the Lendal Bridge cash cow. Many visitors have expressed their intent not to return. I note that those entering York from the A19 north are still greeted with signs near Clifton Green which advise that Lendal Bridge is restricted access and they should drive straight on (ie via Lendal Bridge) for the railway station. mmarshal

6:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
This thing is like the Daleks. You keep thinking you have killed it off but it keeps coming back for another go.
Brilliant!
Post of the week. :-D
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: This thing is like the Daleks. You keep thinking you have killed it off but it keeps coming back for another go.[/p][/quote]Brilliant! Post of the week. :-D Buzzz Light-year

2:46am Sat 25 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Marc77 wrote:
I wonder how many moaners will whinge about it ruining the "character" of this city.
I bet they're already making up a petition as we speak... whilst residents of Leeman Road, Garfield Terrace, Salisbury Terrace etc are leaning out of their windows as far as possible to see if they can see part of the NRM site so as to say the big wheel will "invade their privacy", whilst at the same time consulting with some local councillor to see where the group of Great Crested Newts has gone to that last saw their deployment at Monks Cross and Osbaldwick.
[quote][p][bold]Marc77[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many moaners will whinge about it ruining the "character" of this city.[/p][/quote]I bet they're already making up a petition as we speak... whilst residents of Leeman Road, Garfield Terrace, Salisbury Terrace etc are leaning out of their windows as far as possible to see if they can see part of the NRM site so as to say the big wheel will "invade their privacy", whilst at the same time consulting with some local councillor to see where the group of Great Crested Newts has gone to that last saw their deployment at Monks Cross and Osbaldwick. Magicman!

2:48am Sat 25 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

far2bizzy wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.
Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate.
Are the ones who see it as 'inappropriate' the sort of people who liked waking up before dawn to listen to the ramblings of Terry Wogan, who get excited about Early Bird Specials, and have plastic rattling pots entitled 'monday' 'tuesday' 'wednesday' etc etc....??
[quote][p][bold]far2bizzy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Good news in my book. Need to keep as many attractions as we can.[/p][/quote]Does anyone actually know if the wheel is an attraction or a repulsion? For every tourist I’ve met who's been on the wheel I’ve met another that’s considered it an eyesore and inappropriate.[/p][/quote]Are the ones who see it as 'inappropriate' the sort of people who liked waking up before dawn to listen to the ramblings of Terry Wogan, who get excited about Early Bird Specials, and have plastic rattling pots entitled 'monday' 'tuesday' 'wednesday' etc etc....?? Magicman!

2:51am Sat 25 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

meme wrote:
best place is North st gardens on river, no homes ,near a part of this city that needs more people
Indeed, but it overlooks the Guildhall and so councillors would oppose it - plus the edge of the site would need barrages to prevent it flooding.

------

Anyway, I have an idea for something to a give a 'new perspective' on the city from the air - a big viking caterpault! I haven't ironed all the bugs out, the Health and Safety risk assesment is a big obstacle to get around.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: best place is North st gardens on river, no homes ,near a part of this city that needs more people[/p][/quote]Indeed, but it overlooks the Guildhall and so councillors would oppose it - plus the edge of the site would need barrages to prevent it flooding. ------ Anyway, I have an idea for something to a give a 'new perspective' on the city from the air - a big viking caterpault! I haven't ironed all the bugs out, the Health and Safety risk assesment is a big obstacle to get around. Magicman!

7:57am Sat 25 Jan 14

pedalling paul says...

Madasanibbotson wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good!
You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.
I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle..........
[quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good![/p][/quote]You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.[/p][/quote]I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle.......... pedalling paul

8:34am Sat 25 Jan 14

smudge2 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good!
You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.
I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle..........
Your up early Paul...Damp bed ????
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good![/p][/quote]You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.[/p][/quote]I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle..........[/p][/quote]Your up early Paul...Damp bed ???? smudge2

8:53am Sat 25 Jan 14

pedalling paul says...

Don't you mean You're.....?
Don't you mean You're.....? pedalling paul

9:03am Sat 25 Jan 14

DEKKA says...

smudge2 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Madasanibbotson wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good!
You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.
I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle..........
Your up early Paul...Damp bed ????
Some people have no sense of humour
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Why can't we have two wheels....? Surely two wheels are good![/p][/quote]You need help. Make an appointment with your GP.[/p][/quote]I was only thinking that it would make quite a spectacle..........[/p][/quote]Your up early Paul...Damp bed ????[/p][/quote]Some people have no sense of humour DEKKA

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